Hi Bob, That pretty much wraps it up with parts and numbers. I will have to check my Honda 3 gallon fuel tank to gauge if it will fit between the valves. The removable plug idea is a less expensive solution for sure, but the ball valve is obviously more suitable for a new boat, and no errant lines will snag on it. I like the sponge idea for the fuel hose, but a friend suggested a cone-shaped wrap of self-adhesive rubber electrical tape on the hose next to the squeeze bulb. Just cram the sucker in the hole from the outside, and voila! Worth a try. Sloppy water indeed. We dropped the boat in the water with intentions of rigging it at a slip, but it was dead calm, so why not put the boom and main on out in the lake where there is lots of room and a good view? Got all the sails up to admire, and within 5 minutes we had 20 knots or so with gusts to 25 or 30, and no reefing gear or battens in the main. A screaming good sail was had, but my muscular deck ape could not keep the genoa flat without a winch; since I thought the winches were just for looks, I never bought a handle. If have to say the IdaSailor rudder performs very well. I cut 3" off the tiller butt and it came out just the right length. Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob From California" <ocean37@hotmail.com> To: "Monty Listserver" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi Tom...
We've moved to a watertight cockpit floor on recent M_17s by installing some 1.5 inch Marelon
Ball Valves from Forespar.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/...
Available at WestMarine.com
Part number #112425 for the Valve itself (you will need two) and you're going to need 4 tailpieces (1.5 inch) part number #130229
Leave the valves in the OFF position for normal sailing or when you have a crowd in the cockpit.
Open the valves at a mooring or slip when the boat is empty to keep the cockpit floor dry.
For the fuel line as is comes out of the transom, use a sponge folded around the line and shoved into the hole. You must have been in some sloppy water.....?
Fair winds
Bob Eeg
Montgomeryboats.com
(949) 489-8227
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:07 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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