Here's a link to the pic of which Tod was speaking. It wasn't attached to the email I received, but the link is on the MSOG site under: Boat Owners Photos/Links to M-Photos on Other Sites. It was taken on 6/12/2001 by Tod on San Domingo Creek, the back entrance to St. Michaels, MD. http://www.trailersailor.com/uploads/remotesteering.jpg Proof that even a short-shaft Honda does well with the crew amidships, in flat water. The motor is on the original motor mount. Bill Riker M-15 #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: July 10, 2893 6:44 PM To: >Mboats< Subject: M_Boats: fine form Here's a textbook illustration of *fine* motoring form. You will note the forward position of the helmsman and the minimal wake generated despite an estimated speed of 3.5 knots (how's that sound, Bill?). Steering is accomplished via lines to the tiller. Also note that the motoring is occurring during a state of glassy calm where all steerage had been lost. The outboard was being used only as a last resort by the purist at the helm :o) I have some photos of Storm Petrel's asymetrical spinnaker and Busca's anchor roller too but just need to get them uploaded (with the work computer, hopefully tomorrow, I've been out of town for a couple of days). Tod _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats