Also forgot to mention - with the motor on a mount behind the notch, you can put a piece of foam insulation board in the notch, and it makes a significant reduction in motor noise. I'll post a picture when I get my boat back in action later this summer. I tried this out last year and it really helps cut motor noise. I started by just propping a throw cushion up where the notch is and that helped a bit. So I took some scrap XPS foam board (extruded polystyrene - the blue or pink stuff used by builders to insulate foundations etc.), 2" thick, and shaped it to fit in the notch and extend a bit above it. 2.5" would be even better for making a sturdier flange on both sides of the notch, but I happened to have some 2" at the time. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com