Perfectly said, Connie. You have sold me on the M15 again. I'll buy another. I would add one more thing and that is that the M15 is beautiful. I just decided to keep the cover off my boat for the remainder of the season because I miss looking at her. If I knew years ago that I could have keep this beautiful boat, this piece of sculpture, right outside my window, I would never had bought a yacht club boat. Rick Langer M15 #337
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:40:12 -0400 From: chbenneck@juno.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_15 VS CP 16 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20040806.104624.2628.0.chbenneck@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi Irv,
You ask the right question: CP16 vs. M15; and I have owned both.
When I sold my MICRO, I bought the CP16 - roughly same size - but with an aluminum, mast and shrouds, therefore easier to step.
I totally rebuilt the CP16, and sailed it for a few years, but...................... .......and it's these "buts" that get you in the end.
1. Accommodations were terrible: two berths extending under the cockpit seats. The whole front end was all useless space.
2. Center support post for the mast in the middle of the cabin
3. No storage other than stuffing everything under the cockpit seats on the berths. If you want to use the berths, then pile everything in the cockpit for the night............. (and it rains...........) Next morning take all the wet stuff and put it back in the berths again so that you can go sailing........... ........and Murphy dictates that what you want - RIGHT NOW - is the furthest in and the most difficult to retrieve.
4. On a reach or a run it sails nicely (but what boat doesn't?), but if you have to sail hard on the wind, the leeway is enormous; i.e., it doesn't like going in that direction!
5. After living with those CP16 problems, and finding that I disliked them intensely, I latched on to the Montgomery 15 as a possible substitute, and the more I learned the more I became convinced that it was a "proper" vessel, designed and built by someone who knew what sailing was all about and what was required in a boat.
6. Now after sailing my M15 for several years, all I can say is, the M15 gives you what you need and want: Good inside storage; sail lockers; good sailing characteristics; good berths; a portapottie. It is a responsive, elegant, excellently designed small yacht.
7. There is no comparison between an M15 and a CP16. The M15 is a proper boat; the CP16 is a failed attempt at being a useable sail boat.
Connie M15 CP16 MICRO