It did distract them for awhile! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <jslubliner@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pop rivets? Early Mexico racing dirty trick #1: In the mid-70-s, When Jerry and Tom Van Atta would race Jerry's most current go-fast in Guaymas... I remember a race when Jerry and Tom were racing side by side with a guy named Neal Clark in another one of Jerry's boats. At one critical point in the dual, one of the "perps" threw a handful of broken pop rivets at the competitor's sail. As the broken pop rivets began to rain down on the deck and as the sailors realized what they were seeing, they became convinced that the rig was coming apart and broke off the competition to investigate. The offending boat then sped on ahead and won the race. This proves that there is always a good use for pop rivets - and that the race is not always to the swift, but sometimes to the crafty. John in Tucson. ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: eisenee <eisenee@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 6:26 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pop rivets? I have been using aluminum pop rivits on all my boats for the last 40 years and don't remember one ever failing. And if something is going to fail I would rather have the rivit break then to have a large hole torn into the boom or mast. Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: douglas kelch <doug1kelch@gmail.com> To: Montgomery <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 1:04 pm Subject: M_Boats: Pop rivets? I am curious about Tom's comment on stainless pop rivets. I used to use stainless self taping screws. Over 10 years of use, often in altwater, they fused to the boom and were not easily removable and the esulting larger hole was not useable. I switched to aluminum pop rivets as thier strength seems to be well in xcess of the need on small boats like ours. There does not seem to be any need or advantage to stainless pop rivets. Am I wrong here? Thanks Doug Kelch 15 G" #310 Seas the Day" -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6339 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message