Hi again, Had Pajarita (M17 #38) in a temporary slip at Lake of the Woods, southern Oregon, last Wednesday through Sunday. Sailed her Wednesday, briefly Friday, longer sails Saturday and Sunday. Wed-Sat were medium to strong winds and gustiness, kept to the small jib and first reef in main Fri and Sat as some of the gusts were 15+ and from varying/unpredictable mountain lake directions. She does great in all conditions so far. Sunday was calm to light air, finally got to try the genoa, which seems huge in my experience, and moves her along amazingly well in feather-light breezes. Then it was time to haul out. My 2001 Outback wagon 2.5L 5-spd did just fine pulling her out of the water. It is a fairly gentle ramp, there are certainly steeper ones out there. But so far so good, it wasn't on the edge on the gentle ramp so there is some margin for steeper ones. And, because of the gentle ramp, getting her off the trailer was difficult without floating the car also. So before pulling out, I had fabricated an 18" (pin to pin) extension bar for my hitch. That gave me just enough more trailer in the water (without the car more in the water) to float her all but the last 2 ft. or so onto the trailer. I use the extension bar ONLY on the ramp - it's not suitable for towing. Ultimately I need the front of the trailer extended, ideally with a sliding extension. The tow home included ~12 miles of sometimes winding and sometimes steep downhill, secondary highway quality road. Engine braking and vehicle brakes were adequate for the task. I was going slower on the downhills for sure than I would without the trailer; other than that, no problems with the towing. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com