Hi: I just returned from the Montgomery factory in Ontario, CA and talked with the new owner Bob Eeg and Jerry Montgomery. Then placed an order for a new M23. The plant is small there were two Nor'seas being built and about five each of M15 & 17's plus a M23 in a mold. The shop was very full with that work load. They also have some outside space for storage etc. There were only a few workers on site. I checked the BBB they didn't have a current address or any negative reports. The quality of the boats being put together looked very good. I don't have any hard evidence one way or the other. They do have some other ties with Nor'sea purchasing material and parts, I think to get discounts on larger purchasing power. I will have hard evidence in about 90 days. I was pleased that they accept payment on a percentage of completion plan which helps reduce everyone's risk. Fred (aka: derf sails@aol.com)