John, My #184 came from Texas and has a Dilly tilt tongue. Haven't heard of any other boats with that trailer. Maybe a Texas distributor had a connection with Dilly. It seems much more substantial than the standard rig. Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of JRo6238104@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:48 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: weights I know the weights of the boats, that is published. However I dont know trailer so I can not do combined weights... Someone please help out. Bill, The literature that came with my M-15 trailer listed the trailer empty weight as 300 lb., payload as 1200 lb., for a gross weight of 1500 lb. This is a dilly tilt tongue model, not the stock trailer that Bob ships the new ones on but I suspect that it's pretty close. Hope this helps, John Roland - M-15 #194 Wokini _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats