Peter, Don't buy the tiller tamer from W.M. The best tiller lock is available from the company below. It works great, is indestructible, and when I accidentally lost the lever that engages the lock they rushed a new one to me at no charge! http://www.cansail.com/ Mark Dvorscak M17 Grace M23 Faith -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of Peter Deffenbacher Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:25 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock Thank you, Tom S, Steve R, Bill R, Randy G. I think that on my boat I will start with the tiller lock because I have been there with a 20 MPH wind blowing and trying to set the sails with the tiller loose! The rudder will go the wrong way! I am thinking that a Tiller Lock from WM would be the best to start with. Does anyone have any more advice? Thanks in advance, Peter D Peanut M15 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats