There really isn't any need to be snarky. It's very un-Montgomery. I'm very well aware of what's on the net; I make a good living there. I've just not read posts from folks who are writing about taking delivery of their new (as opposed to new to them) Montgomerys. I've gotten the sense that if you can't find a used 15 somewhere in the country, you can't have one. And I've twice emailed the Montgomery site, using its own "contact" form, and received no response to questions having to do with my recommissioning of my 15. So where better to ask, than here? Your put-down was discourteous and ungentlemanly. And unhelpful. ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)