MC With the single side stays (shrouds) an M15 mast is easy to raise. I attach a short cord to the bow cleat with an eye in the outer end. To this I connect the jib halyard. I stand in the cockpit and slide the mast to the rear until it engages in the jaws of the bracket on the cabin roof. Then I walk forward raising the mast until the shrouds are tight. I hold the mast up with one hand and tighten the jib halyard, cleating it at the mast. This holds the mast up while I walk forward to connect to forestay. While on the bow, I hank the jib in place. Ive heard of some using the topping lift line to temporarily hold the mast up but most use the jib halyard. You have to make sure that the shrouds dont tangle anything as you lift the mast. This works so well, that even with two folks rigging the boat, I still do it this way. Fair winds Don -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:46 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock (GaryM.Hyde) 2. Re: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock (Don&Sonja) 3. Re: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock (IDCLLC@aol.com) 4. Tel- tails (MC) 5. Re: How to seperate list messages from other mail (gilbert landin) 6. Re: new owner (Larry Yake) 7. Re: new owner (Howard Audsley) 8. new owner (Honshells) 9. M23 Offshore Cutter (Honshells) 10. Re: Tel- tails (GaryM.Hyde) 11. raising mast (MC) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:37:14 -0800 From: Gary M. Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <5A8550CA-579D-11D8-B175-00039301992E@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Tom: I like your idea too. email a picture? --Gary On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 08:54 AM, Smith, Tom wrote:
Peter, I use a real low tech tiller lock on my M15. Uses a jam cleat on the bottom of the tiller to capture a line connected to two bungee loops that connect to the stern cleats on either side. Works real well. Email me off line if you want to know more. t
Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Deffenbacher [mailto:pwdeffen@easystreet.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:25 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock
Thank you, Tom S, Steve R, Bill R, Randy G. I think that on my boat I will start with the tiller lock because I have been there with a 20 MPH wind blowing and trying to set the sails with the tiller loose! The rudder will go the wrong way! I am thinking that a Tiller Lock from WM would be the best to start with. Does anyone have any more advice? Thanks in advance, Peter D Peanut M15
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------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:00:56 -0800 From: "Don&Sonja" <dshaas@sprintmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <410-2200424516056340@sprintmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII For an even a lower tech solution for short term tiller locking, I stretch a single piece of bungee cord between the stern cleats. Then a couple of turns of the bungee looped around the tiller handle holds the rudder in place. Don, M-15, Dream Catcher
[Original Message] From: Gary M. Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: 2/4/2004 9:39:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock
Tom: I like your idea too. email a picture? --Gary On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 08:54 AM, Smith, Tom wrote:
Peter, I use a real low tech tiller lock on my M15. Uses a jam cleat on the bottom of the tiller to capture a line connected to two bungee loops that connect to the stern cleats on either side. Works real well. Email me off line if you want to know more. t
Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Deffenbacher [mailto:pwdeffen@easystreet.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:25 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock
Thank you, Tom S, Steve R, Bill R, Randy G. I think that on my boat I will start with the tiller lock because I have been there with a 20 MPH wind blowing and trying to set the sails with the tiller loose! The rudder will go the wrong way! I am thinking that a Tiller Lock from WM would be the best to start with. Does anyone have any more advice? Thanks in advance, Peter D Peanut M15
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:05:37 EST From: IDCLLC@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 Jib, Main and Tiller Lock To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20.21d1ae43.2d53d1e1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I use a similar setup on our Potter. I just hook a heavy bungy to the stern cleats, and activate with a jam cleat. Works great! Steve Tyree, P-15 In a message dated 2/4/2004 11:39:52 PM Central Standard Time, gmhyde1@mac.com writes: Tom: I like your idea too. email a picture? --Gary On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 08:54 AM, Smith, Tom wrote:
Peter, I use a real low tech tiller lock on my M15. Uses a jam cleat on the bottom of the tiller to capture a line connected to two bungee loops that connect to the stern cleats on either side. Works real well. Email me off line if you want to know more. t
Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed
------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 22:47:12 -0500 From: "MC" <southisland2@earthlink.net> Subject: M_Boats: Tel- tails To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <000901c3ed2d$130d5d20$9bfccbd8@D60D0Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Found an interesting web site called Telling Tails on all the aspects of sail trim that may be interest to those trying to improve their speed performance. at Telling Tales from WB-Sails from Finland ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:34:13 -0600 From: "gilbert landin" <gilbert@mindgame.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: How to seperate list messages from other mail To: "MC" <southisland2@earthlink.net>, <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <006701c3ed8f$d8f69210$0200a8c0@MySony> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When I joined the list last month, it became apparent that I would have to do something about separating my list messages from my normal bevy of mail. Outlook express has a neat little utility that allows you to set message filtering tools. Here is what I did: From the Tools|Message Rules|Mail window, You can add a rule by clicking on the new button. 1. In the select the conditions for your rule : check "Where the subject lines contains specific words" 2. Select the actions for your rule "Move it to the specified folder" 3. Rule description "Apply this rule after the message arrives 4.Name of the rule "New mail rule #X" (next available number) When you click OK, this box goes away and the underlying Message Rules window will appear. In the Rule description dialog box this rule is waiting to be finished. Click on the blue contains a new window will promt you for Specific Words. I found , for some reason that cut and paste from an actual subject part works better than just typing in the "Re: M_Boats:" line. That should be all you need in the rule. The next part of the rule will move the message to a specific folder. I created a sail folder earlier just for this.The rule should look like this "where the subject line contains Re:M_Boats: move the message to the Sail folder". Wal la all your list messages should now appear in nice order w/ no viagra ads inbetween, ready for you to read at your leisure. ps sorry I made this so long winded. gilbertFrom gilbert@mindgame.com Sat Feb 07 08:43:51 2004 Received: from mail6.atl.registeredsite.com ([64.224.219.80] ident=nobody) by mailman.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ApUcY-0006X0-00 for <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 08:43:50 -0700 Received: from mail.mindgame.com (mail.mindgame.com [64.225.225.211]) i17GhpH4005235; Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:43:51 -0500 Received: from MySony [64.225.225.211] by mail.mindgame.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id A7B213DC00F2; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 10:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c3ed91$2c6715e0$0200a8c0@MySony> From: "gilbert landin" <gilbert@mindgame.com> To: "MC" <southisland2@earthlink.net>, <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> References: <000901c3ed2d$130d5d20$9bfccbd8@D60D0Q21> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new owner Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:43:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> List-Id: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats.mailman.xmission.com> List-Help: <mailto:montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats>, <mailto:montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats>, <mailto:montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com?subject=unsubscribe> I have contracted to buy an M-17 you guys have twisted by arm and corrupted my thoughts. Hopefully the deal will fall thru this week. unpatiently awaiting gilbert ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 07:53:29 -0800 From: Larry Yake <leyake@juno.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new owner To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20040207.075330.-239797.12.leyake@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ahh yes. Our unbridled enthusiasm strikes again! ;-) You won't regret it. Larry On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:43:45 -0600 "gilbert landin" <gilbert@mindgame.com> writes:
I have contracted to buy an M-17 you guys have twisted by arm and corrupted my thoughts. Hopefully the deal will fall thru this week.
unpatiently awaiting
gilbert
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------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 10:13:17 -0600 From: Howard Audsley <haudsley@tranquility.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new owner To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BC4A6ABD.6428%haudsley@tranquility.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" They say the 2 happiest days a boat owner can have are the day they bought it and the day they sold it. I don't know if this is true or not. I currently have 3 boats.....having never sold any. Howard On 2/7/04 9:53 AM, "Larry Yake" <leyake@juno.com> wrote:
Ahh yes. Our unbridled enthusiasm strikes again! ;-) You won't regret it. Larry
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:43:45 -0600 "gilbert landin" <gilbert@mindgame.com> writes:
I have contracted to buy an M-17 you guys have twisted by arm and corrupted my thoughts. Hopefully the deal will fall thru this week.
unpatiently awaiting
gilbert
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------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:06:04 -0500 From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Subject: M_Boats: new owner To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <003601c3eda5$0e38dc20$784db3cf@computer> You're a sailor after my own heart, Howard. I currently have my eye on the Chuck Paine-designed Norseboat, www.norseboat.com : I saw her at "Strictly Sail Chicago" on February 1st. I'd love to have a Norseboat to do some wilderness-tripping with canoeist/kayaker friends. But the only way I could afford it would be to sell my M17, and I don't think I will ever be able to part with my M17. So I'll just have to wait a few years 'til I can afford a second boat (actually, it would be a third boat, b/c I'm 1/3 partner in a Pacific Seacraft Flicka 20'). I told a local broker that I was enamored with the M23 Offshore Cutter. He said, "You'd have to sell your M17." I said, "I don't think I could." He said, "Boat are 'she's', Craig, and no man can handle more than one woman at a time." I said, "I want a harem." --Craig, M17 #389; PS Flicka 20' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Audsley" <haudsley@tranquility.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: new owner They say the 2 happiest days a boat owner can have are the day they bought it and the day they sold it. I don't know if this is true or not. I currently have 3 boats.....having never sold any. Howard On 2/7/04 9:53 AM, "Larry Yake" <leyake@juno.com> wrote: Ahh yes. Our unbridled enthusiasm strikes again! ;-) you won't regret it. Larry On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:43:45 -0600 "gilbert landin" <gilbert@mindgame.com> writes: I have contracted to buy an M-17 you guys have twisted by arm and corrupted my thoughts. Hopefully the deal will fall thru this week. unpatiently awaiting gilbert ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 16:26:40 -0500 From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Subject: M_Boats: M23 Offshore Cutter To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <001701c3edc1$1570f060$4555b3cf@computer> Bob and Jerry, Any news on the new M23 Offshore Cutter? Have you built hull #2? Does the sailing community "at large" know this boat exists? I noticed a recent issue of "Sail" magazine had an article on thin-water cruisers, and the new M23 sure would've been worth mentioning . . . Just curious, as well as hopeful that the Cutter will be a success. Thanks, Craig F. Honshell, cfhonshell@ia4u.net M17, hull #389 PS Flicka 20' ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:59:30 -0800 From: Gary M. Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tel- tails To: MC <southisland2@earthlink.net>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <AB07E88E-59C9-11D8-B72A-00039301992E@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MC Yes, it's a fun site. The address is: http://www.wb-sails.fi/ --Gary Hyde M15 #235 'Vanilla' N24 'Sailabration' On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 07:47 PM, MC wrote:
Found an interesting web site called Telling Tails on all the aspects of sail trim that may be interest to those trying to improve their speed performance. at
Telling Tales from WB-Sails from Finland
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--Gary Hyde M15 #235 'Vanilla' N24 'Sailabration' ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 21:45:44 -0500 From: "MC" <southisland2@earthlink.net> Subject: M_Boats: raising mast To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <000501c3eeb6$d1c2f7e0$10facbd8@D60D0Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In the parking lot, is it just as easy to raise the mast going forward to jib stay or is it done the other way sometimes? ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6 ***********************************************