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1. Re: Flathead lake, Montana sailing (Saltm17@aol.com) 2. Re: Flathead lake, Montana sailing (Rmceagrella@aol.com) 3. new member (Ben Smith) 4. RE: new member (Tom Smith) 5. Re: new member (Doug Kelch) 6. RE: Furler jib (Tom Jenkins) 7. RE: Furler jib - sail size? (Doug Kelch)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:08:46 EST From: Saltm17@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Flathead lake, Montana sailing To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <d4f.21a9b335.34de814e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I sailed my M17 on Flathead lake in 1988 for 5 days. It is a very scenic lake about 20 miles long (if failing memory serves) set in a basin surrounded by tall and beautiful mountains. There are some fairly shallows area but there is just enough water to sail. The main part of the lake is very deep. There is a Marina at the northern edge where we put in and sailed the length of the lake south to the group of islands including No Horse island. Back then only one of the islands had any development on them, and when we anchored in a small cove a couple of BIG buck mule deer walked along the edge of the shore within 30 yards of us. The water is COLD so don't expect to swim in it, and be careful, because the lake is set in a valley, storms can comin elevation that the sailing season is short. I think we were there in August and were very glad to have sleeping bags at night. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any particular questions and I'll try to answer them
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 01:01:05 EST From: Rmceagrella@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Flathead lake, Montana sailing To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <d65.1f7e4631.34de9ba1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Rick and I are both Flathead Lake natives, grew up there, and took our first sailing lessons there out of Dayton, near Wild Horse Island. Flathead Lake is big, beautiful and can have some very nice wind. Usually good breeze in the morning and late afternoon. There are just a few destinations though, few parks and few marinas as most is privately owned, but they are available. Dayton has a nice sailing club and is usually available to stay at. Polson at the south end of the lake has now at least 2 marinas with available slips. The swimming is fine Mid July through early September, a little chilly in June. The storms do happen, but usually with fair warning. The first time we took a boat out alone, the instructor said "It looks a little marginal today" and we managed to broach the thing, yet lived to laugh about it. I'm always amazed at how little boat traffic is on this lake. Absolutely gorgeous when the weather is nice. If you need names of businesses, just let us know. We have to haul the boat there from Spokane at least once a year to go sailing or the summer just wouldn't be the same...
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 21:59:06 +0000 From: Ben Smith <productiongreatscott@hotmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: new member To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BAY123-W20EDA711E64B17E797B427D6280@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello, My name is Ben and I am new to this mailing list. I do not currently own a Montgomery but am looking to buy a 17. I live in Boston which I have decided is one of the worst places to live if you are looking to buy one. Anyway, thanks for welcoming me to this mailing list and fair winds.
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:28:15 -0800 From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> Subject: RE: M_Boats: new member To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <001201c86b8c$a5929660$6501a8c0@Fairfield> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Welcome aboard Ben. t
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Hello, My name is Ben and I am new to this mailing list. I do not currently own a Montgomery but am looking to buy a 17. I live in Boston which I have decided is one of the worst places to live if you are looking to buy one. Anyway, thanks for welcoming me to this mailing list and fair winds.
Thanks,
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Message: 5 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:59:54 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: new member To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <919188.66546.qm@web58707.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Ben,
Welcome aboard!
Several of the East Coast Montgomery boats have had some outstanding cruising in Buzzard's Bay and the Islands.
A great area for a Montgomery 17.
Good luck in your search.
Doug Kelch M15 "Seas the Day"
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Thanks,
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Message: 6 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:34:21 -0800 From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Furler jib To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <0JW300EXTIPGQEC4@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Gary,
Got a question on CDI furlers. I think a furler is a great idea for boats kept in a slip or stored mast-up on a trailer, but I would like the option of removing the setup for long trips with lots of stops at different lakes. Seems like this would save wear and tear on my body and the equipment. I bought my boat with the furler installed, so I am wondering if the headstay can be removed by taking off the anti-rotation strap, removing the drum cover and turnbuckle, and slipping the stay out the top of the luff extrusion. According to my reasoning (= wishful thinking), the sail would be left furled on the luff during this procedure, and the stay could be easily re-inserted from the top to activate the rig again. Am I missing anything? Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gary M Hyde Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:38 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furler jib
Rick: I went with the 150 because I sail in a lot of light summer air too. Elliot-Pattinson made me a good sail. I had the foam added because we forgot it in the initial order. I also had the sun shield (I guess you call it that) to protect the sail when it's rolled up. --Gary On Feb 7, 2008, at 5:12 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
Gary,
Thanks for the input, and that brings up another decision - should I go for a 135% or a 150%? The price difference is pretty small, and the 150% would give better sailing in the Mid-Atlantic doldrums of July and August. I had thought that the limit of effective reefing was around a 25% reduction, which, starting with a 150% still leaves a lot of sail up. I'm hoping to use the sail over a wide range of conditions single-handing, so it seemed that the 135% might be the best compromise, but maybe I need to rethink it.
Thanks,
Rick
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Message: 7 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: M_Boats: Furler jib - sail size? To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <937775.57228.qm@web58711.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I came accross a comment on roller reefing sail size at http://www.yachtworks.net/Store/headsail_furling.htm
and thought I would share it for the discussion.
" Sail Selection One area of caution: we think you can effectively reduce your headsail area by about 30%-from a 130% to a 100%-but not much further. We've all seen ads in sailing magazines which imply that your 150% genoa can be rolled into a storm jib, but that is nonsense. If you sail in an area where the prevailing winds are light in one season and heavy in another, you'll probably want two furling headsails: a 135% and a 110%, for example. "
Thanks
Doug Kelch
Tom Jenkins <tjenk@gte.net> wrote: Gary,
Got a question on CDI furlers. I think a furler is a great idea for boats kept in a slip or stored mast-up on a trailer, but I would like the option of removing the setup for long trips with lots of stops at different lakes. Seems like this would save wear and tear on my body and the equipment. I bought my boat with the furler installed, so I am wondering if the headstay can be removed by taking off the anti-rotation strap, removing the drum cover and turnbuckle, and slipping the stay out the top of the luff extrusion. According to my reasoning (= wishful thinking), the sail would be left furled on the luff during this procedure, and the stay could be easily re-inserted from the top to activate the rig again. Am I missing anything? Thanks for any advice you can offer.
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gary M Hyde Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:38 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furler jib
Rick: I went with the 150 because I sail in a lot of light summer air too. Elliot-Pattinson made me a good sail. I had the foam added because we forgot it in the initial order. I also had the sun shield (I guess you call it that) to protect the sail when it's rolled up. --Gary On Feb 7, 2008, at 5:12 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
Gary,
Thanks for the input, and that brings up another decision - should I go for a 135% or a 150%? The price difference is pretty small, and the 150% would give better sailing in the Mid-Atlantic doldrums of July and August. I had thought that the limit of effective reefing was around a 25% reduction, which, starting with a 150% still leaves a lot of sail up. I'm hoping to use the sail over a wide range of conditions single-handing, so it seemed that the 135% might be the best compromise, but maybe I need to rethink it.
Thanks,
Rick
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