That wouldn't work well on my M17 # 215. The locker lids on your boat have a fairly wide edge face where you can fasten something. For all intents and purposes, the locker lids on my oldster have no edge face at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Carnes" <mitch_carnes@sbcglobal.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 2:34:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: How to keep water out I used regular s/s hasps with stainless weldable tabbed backed tee nuts from McMaster Carr. #8 sized. Easy Peasy "I like easy, because hard is so difficult". Mitch M-17 656 ________________________________ From: "swwheatley@comcast.net" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: How to keep water out Than you for that link Thomas. I've been wondering what kind of latch might work given that the edge faces on my M17's locker lids are way too narrow to fit a normal hasp-type fitting (they're really not faces at all, just radiuses that end as soon as they hit 90 degrees). Some of those slam latches look like they might do the trick. I take it these are usually flush mounted on the locker lids and latch on a fitting attached to the inside of the locker wall. Has anyone actually installed these? Are they uncomfortable to sit on? Clearly, a little water would pool in them, but is is enough to be a nuisance? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas" <toboyle01@comcast.net> To: "Ronald McNeil" <ronaldwmcneil@yahoo.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 5:46:08 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: How to keep water out search for "perko flush slam latches" and look at the images ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald McNeil" <ronaldwmcneil@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:44:44 AM Subject: M_Boats: How to keep water out I was participating in the races with the AZ Lake Pleasant Yacht Club on Saturday. With winds of 14-16 and gusts to 20, were doing everything pretty well with PFD's on, the companion way closed up, the main reefed and the gene at about 90%. We made it to the windward mark comfortably, then on the down wind run we opened the gene to 150% and that was fine as well. But we were then over confident and wanting to compete, so we kept the gene out for the windward run to the finish line. Then we go hit by a gust and before we could release the sheets our mast nearly touched down and we took on a good amount of water. I don't know how much of our sail hit the water, I was too busy scrambling to stay in the boat, but I know we were nearly vertical for a moment. After coming back up the water was below the top of the bench seats and companion way, but after bailing out we realized we had a lot of water in every locker and the bilge was full. I don't think the lockers swung open especially not all 3 and I do have some cheep weather stripping on them which creates a little suction when opening them, so I don't know how we got so much water inside them. Please let me know if anyone can advise on best ways to seal the lockers. I'm also considering adding a bilge and a cockpit pump if anyone can advise on that. Thanks, Ron McNeil M17/Jackpot/#675