Thanks for the info GO, I will check it out.
Tony Cox M17 294
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On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:30 PM, GILASAILR@aol.com wrote:
Tony,
My mast was 'worn out' - tired, beat up, and I wanted to change over to a tall rig. I was not happy with the soft and flexible extrusion of the original mast section so I contacted Bill Ballenger at Ballenger Spars in Watsonville CA. After a bit of discussion we agreed on a mast section (4026) and I supplied the dimensions for the tall rig (21 inches longer) I noted the location of my gooseneck and halyard exits and he built me an excellent mast. I provided a drawing of the masthead dimensions and they built a welded fitting with replaceable sheaves and axles! Jerry M. made the shrouds and stays and we have been happy ever since. If you look on the MSOG site
Tom, There are PHRF and Portsmouth ratings for the boat (M-17) in three configurations - Standard rig , Tall rig, Flush deck, the boats were raced in the West and Southwest for a period of time -'back in the day' The tall rig affects my rating where ever I race - except a race like the Cruiser Challenge - We sailed a tall rig (Bill G.'s 'Andiamo') at Monterey last weekend. The CC uses no handicap ratings they split the fleet by overall length. I sail primarily in Arizona - light air to ZERO - so I decided the tall rig was in order. M-17's have a long and storied history on Lake Havasu - they have been racing there since the 70's. I race with a 'Tall rig' rating either PHRF or D-PN - whichever the authority chooses for scoring. http://offshore.ussailing.org/Portsmouth_Yardstick/Current_Tables/Offshore_C lasses_F-N.htm The best 21 inches for a M-17's rig. Little to no detrimental effect at higher wind ranges - HUGE difference in light air. value of rig is my opinion - ever see a Renault driver that didn't think they were GREAT cars...? Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing (too hot here) GO M-17t sail # 354 'Tiny Purple Fishes' In a message dated 7/20/2013 7:34:27 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes: Looks like a great site if you need a mast. How does that affect your phf(?) for racing on Lake Havasu? Tom, M-17 hull #258 On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Tony Cox <cox.tjg@gmail.com> wrote: -
M-17's 'LB/GF!' (looks bad/goes fine!) check out the couple of pictures there - fixed airfoil spreaders, doublers at butt and spreaders - super fine workmanship and VERY fair price.
The location of the spar manufacturer relative to your location can be important, as the freight on a 20'+ tube that needs to be 'top load' can get quite expensive.
FWIW NFIW -just really good service and a great product - (I sold boats for +30 years - I am particular about boat parts!) {;>)
Check them out if you are interested.
_www.ballengerspars.com_ (http://www.ballengerspars.com)
The pre-feed on the throat of the sail track is worth the 'price of admission'! Picture of the rig from 2013 LHPCC is attached.
GO
M-17t sail # 354
In a message dated 7/19/2013 9:33:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cox.tjg@gmail.com writes:
GO,
I live in Silverton, Oregon. My boat is moored on Detroit Lake.
Tony Cox M17 294
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:58 PM, <GILASAILR@aol.com> wrote:
Tony,
What part of the countryside are you located in?
GO M17t sail #354
In a message dated 7/19/2013 7:27:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cox.tjg@gmail.com writes:
Roger that Ron, not a fun day.
Thanks Tony Cox M-17 294
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Ronald McNeil <ronaldwmcneil@yahoo.com>wrote:
Och! That happened to us on my buddy's Windrose 18 last year. In our case both turnbuckles on the port side came undone one right after the other. Not a fun day.
Regards, Ron McNeil M17 675
________________________________ From: Tony Cox <cox.tjg@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 5:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Mast failure
Unfortunately had mast failure today on my M-17. Portside lowerstay snapped at the speader, then it all came down. Need a new mast and should replace the standing rigging. Jerry, you out there? Where do you suggest I go?
Tony Cox M-17 #294
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