Yes Tyler, that is what I appear to have. When I was at Defender I asked about the Suncor hand swager they had for less that $70, and was told it will work for oval sleeves on 1/8 wire. However, I now thing not for Nicopress. The Suncor tool is about 1/10 the cost of the Nicopress. I assume it and their sleeves are for less critical applications. Maybe I'll just get it all made new and update the style. I have a few broken strands and was going to make my own shrouds and stays with this tool, but if I have to buy the Nicopress hand swager it's not really worth that cost for what may be a one time use. Maybe I'll try to call Suncor for Tech support. On Tuesday, April 2, 2019, 1:41:35 PM EDT, casioqv@usermail.com <casioqv@usermail.com> wrote: It sounds like you have nicopress rigging. That's perfectly suitable for standing rigging, and is just as strong and long lasting as machine swaged ends. Some people don't think it looks as neat/clean, and it is more likely to snag on things. For these reasons, you won't find this type of rigging anymore from the factory on modern sailboats- but it's perfectly safe and serviceable. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:32:32 AM Subject: M_Boats: Standing rigging? I'm turning into the man of 1000 questions. So I went to Defender Marine last Thursday for their sale. I ordered a couple of replacement buckles with toggle nuts to replace the backstay and headstay ones, as they don't turn well any more, and one had a bend. I received them yesterday, and I got T bolts instead of toggle nuts. Ok, so I called Johnson today to verify that they're as strong as what I had with toggle nuts. No problem there, but in conversation it came up that my standing rigging is 1/8 wire with thimbles and 2 swaged ovals on each end of each cable. Was this standard? Johnson suggested getting rid of it and in fact suggested switching it all over to machine swaged ends because mine are not suitable for standing rigging. What is the consensus here? -Gerry