...speaking of keels and bunks and rollers, a question on the M17 centerboard. This is a '74 so it's the heavy cast iron CB. When fully up, should it be flush with the bottom of the keel? Mine will not go up quite that far. The rear end protrudes about 1 to 1 1/2 inches. I think it is because there is a rather thick pennant line, and I don't know what knot or fastening setup was used but I'm guessing the knot is long/fat, bulky, double, etc. - in short, taking up space that leaves the CB hanging out that inch-plus. I can see the top of the pennant knot hard against the underside of the pennant hole in the CB trunk - it is as far up as it can go. At some point this winter I hope to get the boat situated so I can lower the board down and see what's up and maybe improve the situation. But should I expect to be able to get the CB up flush with the trunk? thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com