I know that this is a boat forum, but the mention of British Sports Cars reminded me of the 1968 red MGB that I bought new and kept running for 18 years. Get to know a car pretty well in that time. It was the epitome of 40's engineering, and they mixed rust into the metal at the factory, but I loved it and it gave me many years of fun. Something in the "chroming the garbage can" theory, however. In my case it was red paint. I bought my M-17 pretty new too, and hope it gives me as much pleasure, although the garbage can analogy doesn't seem to fit. Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)