That measurement DOES help, Mark, thanks: My boat is an '83 also. I can never remember the hull # and my documentation is buried in clutter. I want to say that I have hull #382, which would mean that Montgomery Marine built at least 8 more boats in '83. I suppose it's possible that the pulpit type could have changed within 8 boats, because it apparently changed from Larry Yake's '76 model (76") to your '83. It's enough to know, at this point, that the prefab crutch won't work. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta & Mark Dvorscak" <edarts@rosenet.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:29 AM Subject: M17 Tongue-Positioned Mast-Crutch I just built a mast crutch this year for my 1983 M17 on a Trailrite trailer. The crutch is 70" tall and the mast just clears the pulpit by an inch or so. It looks like that 60" crutch you're looking at will need to grow 10" before you could use it. I can't give you my deck to pulpit height because GRACE is in her slip at the marina and I can't get there until next weekend. Hope this helps. Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 GRACE -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:27 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M17 Tongue-Positioned Mast-Crutch Older M17 owners: Do any of you know the distance from top of the Trailrite tongue to the top of the bow pulpit? My boat is in a cradle at a fiberglass shop, so I can't measure the distance myself. I want to add a tongue-mounted mast crutch to hold the mast so that it doesn't have to rest on the bow pulpit while trailering. I can get a 5' high, prefabricated galvanized mast crutch from a local trailer builder, but I don't know if 5' will clear the bow pulpit while the boat is on the trailer. Thanks!