I did exactly what Bill did three years ago, and fully agree with him. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
George and Tom,
We have had a Harken windward sheeting traveller on the cockpit floor for 3 seasons now. Replaced the old pin stop version that was original equipment. That one saw little use as it was a real pain to use. The windward sheeting version gets constant use, sometimes more than the main sheet.
Even though it is only 20 inches or so, that amount of adjustment has a large effect on sail shape. Full width across the seats would be interesting, but at a cost of restricting movement for what I think is the relaxed way many of us sail/cruise these boats.
I have a snap shackle connecting the main sheet cam/block to the traveller car. Have not noticed the main sheet up against the seat edges very much. Probably because the traveller car is normally on center or to windward of center. Had thought I might a strop to raise up the main sheet block, but decided against that. It would then bang the seat edges if slacked.
You do have to secure the windward sheeting car when there is no load on it, such as when motoring. Otherwise it bangs back and forth. We just pull to one side and tie off with a half hitch using the slack control line.
Bill Makin' Time M17 #622
On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi George, I don't have any pictures yet. I can send you some once I get the mainsheet reinstalled on the boat. I do believe you have the basic concept though. Full traverse across the cockpit it the most effective way to manage the main but I am willing to trade off some of that to enable me to be able to climb into and out of the cabin, as well as my wife who has arthritice. I estimate that the fiddle block/clam cleat at the bottom of the mainsheet will pretty much allow for a fair lead up to the mast boom. Actually I could simply add a stainless steel shackle between the track car and the fiddle block to gain any height I may need to allow the mainsheet a fair lead. Isn't it fun to mess about in small boats?[?] I am just about ready to start putting mine back together since finishing the topsides painting this week. My whole neighborhood has been watching my progress since I decided to turn my driveway into a boatyard. Maybe I should invite them all to the relaunching? Fair winds, Tom B
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:32 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com
wrote:
Tom
If you have any pictures you can share that would be helpful. I am looking for a list of hardware numbers you use to make up a system.
If I envision your set up it would appear that your Mainsheet would come up against the side of the seats when all the way to one end of the track and limit the amount of movement of the car on the track.
I had a set up on my Pearson 23 with the track on the seats across the entire cockpit and I guess I learned to live with it.
George
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Buzzi Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Traveler
Hi George, I too am redoing my traveler on my M17. The cockpit setup may not be identical to your 15 but after visiting Lenny Coring and seeing his fine "Roil", M17, (written up in "Good Old Boat" magma/Apr). and discussing his traveler arrangement I decided not to run the traveler from cockpit side to cockpit side. His is that way and he said the level the traveler is now makes it a "pain in the ass" to get into the cabin as you have to step above and over it as well as the companionway sill to then step down into the cabin. I plan to elevate my stock track to just under the companionway sill and thru bolt it to a piece of teak which spans the width of the footwall in the cockpit. That way I can close up eight potential leaking holes where the track is thru bolted through the cockpit sole and give the mainsheet a better run up to the boom than with the stock setup. I plan to install a van so having to sheet the mainsail in tightly to flatten it should not be a real problem. I am glad I visited Lenny (a real gentleman there) as I was considering running the track right across the whole cockpit. Good luck, Tom B