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fin keel repair
by Rimantas Aukstuolis 13 Apr '24

13 Apr '24

I own a 1983 Montgomery 15. Last summer was my first time using the boat due to the pandemic and some other health issues but I did manage to launch and keep at a dock on Lake Pymatuning (OH/PA border) from August to September. Apparently the boat was always dry sailed, and never had anti fouling paint applied as the bottom was clean when I bought it almost three years ago. When I hauled it out (dumb me) there was algae on the bottom. I was able to get it pretty clean using a marine algae cleaner and powerwasher but I'll give it another hit in the spring. As I was powerwashing, I seem to have removed a 3" section of fiberglass from the fin keel, forward on the port side. Looks like exposed metal. Is this lead or steel? Can't see well in there. How should it be fixed/patched? I really don't want to apply anti-fouling paint and will dry sail after I modify the trailer with keel guides and slicker beds to make launch and recovery easier. Any suggestions on repair and trailer mods are appreciated. Thanks Rimantas "Ray" Aukstuolis

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Cover ideas for M15?
by Lawrence Winiarski 04 Aug '23

04 Aug '23

I'm kind of thinking about a cover for the M15. I've been using a tarp over the mast, but I'd kind of like a custom cover. Any ideas? Vendors? Prices?

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M15 trailer tires
by Jim Sadler 24 Jun '23

24 Jun '23

I need your help What is the tire size and number of lugs on M15 trailer I am going to retrieve my trailer and want the have new tires and wheels with me when ai make the trip I believe the trailer is a trailrite Thanks Capt JIM M15 pelican

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Alcohol powered oars
by Jon Barber 22 Jun '23

22 Jun '23

Best idea yet

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Re: Aux fuel
by Mike Epp (Hickory Lane Farms) 22 Jun '23

22 Jun '23

I use the Torqeedo travel 1103 (3hp) and love it. I carry the battery home for a recharge each time I use it. (No-one will steal my motor) Range varies GREATLY when run at higher speeds. It could vary from 2 miles to 15 miles. It pushes the 15 easily to 5mph. A backup battery would be great but I can't justify the expense. I normally only use a motor for getting off the dock and out of the harbor so never had a range issue. I particularly like the speedometer on the throttle and the GPS which constantly updates the range left. Did I mentioned that it's quiet?....😉 On June 19, 2023, at 11:28 PM, Jennifer Wood <jennifer(a)buskersguidetotheuniverse.org> wrote: Myself, I've been holding out for the right electric outboard. Theoretically I could get 4 hours (if you believe the brochure), and a spare battery down below Too spendy for me to try it yet though... On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, 10:13 PM Alex Conley <conley.alex(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Seeing this thread on fuel can storage makes me think of one of those > winter projects I haven't gotten to- an insert for the aft end of the > cockpit of my M15. Its an area that really doesn't get any use, other than > to hold one feet when you stretch out to enjoy the stars- the insert would > turn it into shaded storage for a gas can or two, a tray for loose stuff in > the cockpit, maybe drink holders, maybe a handy spot for the > legally-required throw cushion that would also double as foot rest when > lying down. I've put a rough sketch of the concept below; curious if anyone > else has worked up something like this. I've got an alternate version in > mind that is a drop in battery holder/trolling motor mount only for use on > those mornings when the lake is glass and the fish are calling. > > Alex > > [image: Add-in stern storage.jpg] > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 3:52 PM David Grah via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > I'm catching up to this thread a little late and haven't followed each > > twist. > > I run our new Honda 2.3 (and the Honda 2 before it) at very low throttle > > settings most of the time. On flat water I typically set the throttle > just > > above what it takes for the centrifugal clutch to fully engage and that > > pushes our Montgomery 15 along at about 3.8 miles per hour. At those > > throttle settings we typically get between 2 and 2.5 hours on a tank, > which > > I believe is around a liter. > > For fuel on long trips, we use an external tank with a rubber fuel line > > and a bulb pump rigged to connect to a modified spare fuel cap on the > > motor. It takes about 30 pumps of the bulb to fill the tank when empty. > If > > there is not much going on, we normally run the tank down until the motor > > starts to falter and then pump the tank full. We've done numerous week > long > > trips and this approach has always worked well for us. > > David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky > > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 10:23:04 -0700 > > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Aux fuel > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Message-ID: > > <CAGjBOA6crkUaMGo0QzGWtkZFR18v_=+-C6yCAE324RGWCjC1WA(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Honda 2/2.3 at about 1/2 throttle (more than enough for a M15, Sage 15, > > SageCat, and Sage 17), burn about a little under a liter and hour (aka > one > > tank of fuel). My practice is to refill the tank every 45-50 minutes so > > the motor will restart on a single pull (if you run dry multiple pulls > > needed to get fuel into carb). > > > > I recommend using a 'No-Spill' brand gas can. For day sailing I had a > > 1-gallon that was easy to lift and fill motor. For cruising had an > > additional 2.5gallon can. Would transfer fuel from 2.5 to 1 gallon can > for > > easy filling the motor. > > > > Info on 'No-Spill' - https://nospill.com/ > > > > The 3.5 gallons in cans and a full motor tank gives 15+ hours of range. > > > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > :: M6'8" #650 > > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > > :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ > > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com > > >

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Aux fuel
by Jim Sadler 22 Jun '23

22 Jun '23

Ready for under power stretches .... Not easy to refuel in rough water at night not sure about the range/hours for 5 gal Seems to work fine but as Capt Ron says "The real test is at sea" Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Re: Aux fuel
by David Grah 21 Jun '23

21 Jun '23

I'm catching up to this thread a little late and haven't followed each twist. I run our new Honda 2.3 (and the Honda 2 before it) at very low throttle settings most of the time. On flat water I typically set the throttle just above what it takes for the centrifugal clutch to fully engage and that pushes our Montgomery 15 along at about 3.8 miles per hour. At those throttle settings we typically get between 2 and 2.5 hours on a tank, which I believe is around a liter. For fuel on long trips, we use an external tank with a rubber fuel line and a bulb pump rigged to connect to a modified spare fuel cap on the motor. It takes about 30 pumps of the bulb to fill the tank when empty. If there is not much going on, we normally run the tank down until the motor starts to falter and then pump the tank full. We've done numerous week long trips and this approach has always worked well for us. David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 10:23:04 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Aux fuel To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6crkUaMGo0QzGWtkZFR18v_=+-C6yCAE324RGWCjC1WA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Honda 2/2.3 at about 1/2 throttle (more than enough for a M15, Sage 15, SageCat, and Sage 17), burn about a little under a liter and hour (aka one tank of fuel). My practice is to refill the tank every 45-50 minutes so the motor will restart on a single pull (if you run dry multiple pulls needed to get fuel into carb). I recommend using a 'No-Spill' brand gas can. For day sailing I had a 1-gallon that was easy to lift and fill motor. For cruising had an additional 2.5gallon can. Would transfer fuel from 2.5 to 1 gallon can for easy filling the motor. Info on 'No-Spill' - https://nospill.com/ The 3.5 gallons in cans and a full motor tank gives 15+ hours of range. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sailboatswallow.wordpress.com/ :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com

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Aux fuel
by Jim Sadler 18 Jun '23

18 Jun '23

Happy fathers day Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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R2AK
by Jim Sadler 12 Jun '23

12 Jun '23

Are any Montgomery boats in the race to Alaska? Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15
by David Grah 09 Jun '23

09 Jun '23

Thanks, Dave! Would Duckworks DWX Raid Braid line (https://duckworks.com/dwx-raid-braid/) be appropriate for a new halyard on a 15? Am I correct I should figure out how to splice an eye into the new line and use the eye and a shackle to attach it to the sail? On the current halyard the rope portion is knotted to the cable through an eye at one end of the cable and the other end of the cable is attached to the sail with another eye and a shackle. David Grah Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 06:41:02 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA5qUNRLTk5exN=SXLyKg5-xhk3i6MVOSpFCii4Q9PG9ug(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" David: Get 1/4" low-stretch double-braid line. Lots of options and you basically get what you pay for. Duckworks, Defender, Fisheries, local chandelier, or ... West Marine. There is no reason to use rope-to-wire halyards these days. That set-up is what was done before low-stretch line became available. Confirm the condition of the masthead sheeves before running the new line. Make sure the wire hasn't damaged anything = created burs that will rip up your new halyard. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 19:33 David Grah via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable > has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I > replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I > have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast > head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). >> To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with > some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types > available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and > how to best rig the sail end of the line. >> I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very > interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be > interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what > materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t > done it but have good thoughts on the topic. >> Thanks in advance! > > >> David Grah> Bishop California > Montgomery 15 - Sky >

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