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fin keel repair
by Rimantas Aukstuolis 13 Apr '24

13 Apr '24

I own a 1983 Montgomery 15. Last summer was my first time using the boat due to the pandemic and some other health issues but I did manage to launch and keep at a dock on Lake Pymatuning (OH/PA border) from August to September. Apparently the boat was always dry sailed, and never had anti fouling paint applied as the bottom was clean when I bought it almost three years ago. When I hauled it out (dumb me) there was algae on the bottom. I was able to get it pretty clean using a marine algae cleaner and powerwasher but I'll give it another hit in the spring. As I was powerwashing, I seem to have removed a 3" section of fiberglass from the fin keel, forward on the port side. Looks like exposed metal. Is this lead or steel? Can't see well in there. How should it be fixed/patched? I really don't want to apply anti-fouling paint and will dry sail after I modify the trailer with keel guides and slicker beds to make launch and recovery easier. Any suggestions on repair and trailer mods are appreciated. Thanks Rimantas "Ray" Aukstuolis

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Plan drawing of M15
by Jim Sadler 02 Jun '23

02 Jun '23

Where can I get a plan view of the M15? Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Pendant Replacement
by Jon Barber 31 May '23

31 May '23

Thanks to everyone who chimed in on this topic. I used some advice I heard here and have now come up with a solution. Access to the shackle was the goal in all methods. I realized I could access the shackle from the cabin if I made the pendant hole a little bigger. Using the same pendant, I trimmed off the damaged portion, stripped out 4" of core and using a hooked wire held up the shackle and fed the line thru the shackle. With another hooked wire I pulled the end out of the hole and sewed the overlapping lines together. I will serve it over. This connection can be inspected from the cabin. It will need to have a new splash guard. I ship water through the hole when sailing in heavy seas. I think the problem is resolved. She lies at a mooring this summer, where the board is held up by the pendant, so my sewn connection will be tested.

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M-15 Shroud Size
by David Anderson 31 May '23

31 May '23

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Pendant Replacement
by Jon Barber 31 May '23

31 May '23

Seven years ago I failed to release the pendant before trailering and found it parted when I got home. It had rubbed on the rough edge of the hole in the top of the case. I had been warned about this happening. I'm sure Bob Eeg replaced the pendant when he installed the new keel, just before i got the boat in 2016. The pendant never sees the light of day so I think it should last a long time. Wear is clearly a problem. I have access to a hoist. If I'm ready it should not take long to swap them out. Someone suggested a dyneema replacement. I was going to have West Marine splice a tight eye with a thimble in the end. A shackle was between the board and the pendant. There was no thimble on the old eye splice. I think that's why it failed. How do others connect the board to the pendant? I want to get it right this time.

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Re: Pendant Replacement M17
by tdelacy＠wavecable.com 30 May '23

30 May '23

Jon, 1. Re: making up pendant whether, shackle-bowline, bowline alone, or sewn eye splice, you may have hit the best argument for getting family funds to pay for scuba lessons and scuba equipment! a. I am only able to hold my breath for about 45 seconds. b. I am amazingly slow re: all options for pendant make up. c. The rough part is whatever option you choose, the pendant make up needs to be tight against the centerboard. You really can’t pull the line out from under the hull and make up the pendant attachment topside. d. This also assumes your stop pin is a bolted assembly with hex nut and hex head exposed exterior to hull. This would allow underwater removal. i. If embedded pin, suppose you could sand to expose both sides of the pin and drive it out underwater. 1. Pin removal or time required to find dropped hex head bolt and nut is further justification for scuba lessons. 2. Imagine where you could sail and dive from your boat, with lessons and equipment paid for with the justification of boat maintenance. a. Let me know if the scuba proposal actually works, pretty much a non-starter in my family. 😊 TJ de Lacy M17 hull # 333 From: Jon Barber <brbrbarber(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:48 AM To: tdelacy(a)wavecable.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pendant Replacement M17 Well, if I need to remove the boat from the trailer I'll just launch it and make up the pendant underwater. Thoughts? On Tue, May 30, 2023, 8:45 AM <tdelacy(a)wavecable.com <mailto:tdelacy@wavecable.com> > wrote: Jon, 1. Concur with Mark Dvorscak that unfortunately you will need to remove the boat from the trailer. 2. Do you know how long your pendant lasted? a. I am curious as I sewed a pendant w/o the eye splice. (1) See slide 42 of my power point posted on facebook listed under the files tab of Montgomery Sailboat site. (2) I was frustrated with my skills at creating a tight bowline and living with a small portion of the centerboard exposed. I opted to sew an eye splice. (3) I am planning on removing my boat annually from the trailer to monitor the pendant and observe the biological growth on the centerboard in the trunk. TJ de Lacy M17 hull # 333 -----Original Message----- From: Jon Barber <brbrbarber(a)gmail.com <mailto:brbrbarber@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 8:53 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Pendant Replacement M17 My pendant parted. Luckily, it happened on the trailer. What is the recommended method for replacement? Can I do it by lowering the board with boat in the water? The old pendant had an eye splice without a thimble. That's where it parted. It was attached to a shackle. I think it was a racelite shackle. Thanks for your help, Jon Barber Montgomery17 Ol'44

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Loft drawings for M15
by Jim Sadler 30 May '23

30 May '23

Are lofted drawings available for M15? Or scale model? I want to build dry dock that matches the hull profile Tha nks Skippers Capt Jim SV Pelican M15

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Pendant Replacement M17
by Jon Barber 30 May '23

30 May '23

My pendant parted. Luckily, it happened on the trailer. What is the recommended method for replacement? Can I do it by lowering the board with boat in the water? The old pendant had an eye splice without a thimble. That's where it parted. It was attached to a shackle. I think it was a racelite shackle. Thanks for your help, Jon Barber Montgomery17 Ol'44

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1983 M17 for sale in Bremerton (WA)
by John Schinnerer 14 May '23

14 May '23

Just saw this on craigslist: https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/d/bremerton-83-17ft-montgomery-day-s… ...in case anyone's looking. Seems a bit pricey. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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List active?
by Larry Yake 14 May '23

14 May '23

Haven't seen a post on this list for a month. Just checking to make sure it's still active. Where is everybody?

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