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Bow pulpit. My boat did not come with a bow pulpit. Is there any resource for getting one made or used.
by Doug 14 Aug '22

14 Aug '22

New member here from Bend, OR. just bought a Montgomery 15. ⁣Sent from BlueMail

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Re rig
by Jon Barber 18 Nov '21

18 Nov '21

Has anyone rerigged their 17 with dyneema? I am considering rerigging my boat and would be interested in any tutorials or ideas. Thanks, Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44

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Someone was looking for an M15...? Here's one in Seattle area
by John Schinnerer 06 Sep '21

06 Sep '21

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/d/husum-montgomery-15/7317728796.html Was surfing Oly-Sea craigslist for some friends and found this, just listed a day ago. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Rudder talk
by Gerald Wolczanski 31 Jul '21

31 Jul '21

On my M-23 ("Robin's Nest"), the stock rudder extended almost 9" below the fixed keel depth (board retracted). The few times I ran aground, it was the rudder that buried first in the mud/sand hee in the Chesapeake. One time, we hit a dredging pipe with the rudder tip as we motored out of the marina - a dangerous scenario. It spun the boat around and could have damaged the transom. The M-23 rudder, owing to the Boomkin, could not be made retractable. So I made an entirely new rudder by laminating junk pieces of lumber with System Three epoxy and sanding/planing to shape. I made it an accurate constant chord using a NACA0012 foil shape and I made it about 2 - 3 inches shorter than the fixed keel depth, considerably shorter than the original asymmetric rudder. But, because the chord was constant and longer than the original rudder shape, I gained 33% in rudder size. and I added a diamond-shaped end-plate, maybe 16' wide. End-plates may be controversial, but the improvement in performance was dramatic. I can't remember the last time the boat rounded-up. The improved grip also resulted in more low-speed authority when motoring. The finished rudder was finished with several coats of epoxy barrier coat and the necessary bottom paint. The end plate (no foil shape) was cut from sheet PVC. Jerry Wolczanski M-23 "Robin's Nest" Flag Harbor Marina St. Leonard, MD

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New trailer
by Cap Keith 29 Jul '21

29 Jul '21

Hello all, I’m planning on getting a new trailer fabricated by Pacific Trailers. It is my understanding that they made trailers for the Montgomery’s since the 1980’s, and later, also made the lower profile trailer for the Sage 17… when the Sage was re-designed, does anyone know if there any changes to the hull configuration? (I would like to order the newer, low profile trailer for my 1980 M17.) The rep at Pacific Trailers says to “his knowledge” there weren’t any changes. Has anyone changed out trailers for their Montgomery’s? Thanks so much, Keith M17 Ginger Snap Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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M15 Outboard bracket for 2.5hp suzuki 4 stroke
by David Grah 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

Another "for what it is worth" from me: The stock fiberglass mount is all I have really known on our Montgomery 15. We use it with a small trolling motor and a Honda 2 horsepower motor and are very satisfied with it. I like the simplicity and surprising stoutness (it is amazing what it did to that big pickup that rear ended us while, at the same time, it came out unfazed) of the stock mount. To get the Honda to lock in the up position I had to make an addition to the mount that raises the motor about 3/4 of an inch. When down, that motor stays in the water unless I am forward in waves or maybe if we are on a port tack and healed over. It also has to be lighter than fancier mounts and I've often heard how it is good to keep weight off the back of the boat. I am happy to have the stock mount. David GrahBishop California Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 19:50:39 -0500 From: Josh ua <jsheintz(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: M15 Outboard bracket for 2.5hp suzuki 4 stroke longshaft. To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <CAHC=9rQ-SVWeQPCZSjSyZSnu-_djyWQQtaf4WjQuvyd=Kf99XA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Since the discussion has been oriented aft lately...how about some M15 motor bracket advice? My early 80s M15 has the original mount that juts out from the transom. I have bolted a 2x6 to the aft face of that mount, raising the motor only enough to clear the transom when the 2.5hp Suzuki 4 stroke is tilted to lock position. If I go forward past the companionway, the lower unit lifts out of the water enough to stop coolant flow. This is a problem I am willing to mitigate for a while by turning the motor off to go forward. I've been without a motor for my entire sailing experience (6yrs) so, for now, I am just enjoying the conveniece, but I'm sure there is a motor bracket solution that will answer when the motor is more than a conveniece and can be elevated to the status of an additional piece of safety equipment. There are so many options out there that I would like to hear from the group in order to have a better chance at only buying a bracket once - 'cause some of them are pricey. I intend to deliberately plan well enough not to depend on a motor, but, if I do need it, I will obviously want it to be dependably and functionally installed. Thanks for the tips, Josh M15 HN115 "Honeybee" Rock Port" MO.

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M15 folding rudder
by Jim Sadler 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

Is there a folding rudder ( folds up out of water) made for the M15? It would be great for the SV Pelican that is docked in a slip Thanks Capt Jim Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 221, Issue 33
by Josh ua 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

Thanks Dave, I was sure someone would have figured this one out by now. > > > Josh: > > You want the Garhauer OB-125 'two spring' adjustable outboard bracket. You > can try contacting Garhauer I. California by phone to see if they will sell > you one (their www-site is really bad and it isn't listed) or order one > from Catalina Direct (Catalina parts are made by Garhauer). > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new > site! > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 5:51 PM Josh ua <jsheintz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Since the discussion has been oriented aft lately...how about some M15 > > motor bracket advice? My early 80s M15 has the original mount that juts > > out from the transom. I have bolted a 2x6 to the aft face of that mount, > > raising the motor only enough to clear the transom when the 2.5hp Suzuki > 4 > > stroke is tilted to lock position. If I go forward past the > companionway, > > the lower unit lifts out of the water enough to stop coolant flow. This > is > > a problem I am willing to mitigate for a while by turning the motor off > to > > go forward. I've been without a motor for my entire sailing experience > > (6yrs) so, for now, I am just enjoying the conveniece, but I'm sure there > > is a motor bracket solution that will answer when the motor is more than > a > > conveniece and can be elevated to the status of an additional piece of > > safety equipment. There are so many options out there that I would like > to > > hear from the group in order to have a better chance at only buying a > > bracket once - 'cause some of them are pricey. I intend to deliberately > > plan well enough not to depend on a motor, but, if I do need it, I will > > obviously want it to be dependably and functionally installed. > > > > Thanks for the tips, > > > > Josh > > M15 HN115 "Honeybee" Rock Port" MO. >

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M15 Outboard bracket for 2.5hp suzuki 4 stroke longshaft.
by Josh ua 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

Since the discussion has been oriented aft lately...how about some M15 motor bracket advice? My early 80s M15 has the original mount that juts out from the transom. I have bolted a 2x6 to the aft face of that mount, raising the motor only enough to clear the transom when the 2.5hp Suzuki 4 stroke is tilted to lock position. If I go forward past the companionway, the lower unit lifts out of the water enough to stop coolant flow. This is a problem I am willing to mitigate for a while by turning the motor off to go forward. I've been without a motor for my entire sailing experience (6yrs) so, for now, I am just enjoying the conveniece, but I'm sure there is a motor bracket solution that will answer when the motor is more than a conveniece and can be elevated to the status of an additional piece of safety equipment. There are so many options out there that I would like to hear from the group in order to have a better chance at only buying a bracket once - 'cause some of them are pricey. I intend to deliberately plan well enough not to depend on a motor, but, if I do need it, I will obviously want it to be dependably and functionally installed. Thanks for the tips, Josh M15 HN115 "Honeybee" Rock Port" MO.

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Re: M15 folding rudder
by David Grah 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

For what it is worth, I agree with Daniel and have to say I can not imagine a better rudder than the stock rudder on my Montgomery 15. The raising and lowering mechanism is fantastic, if nothing else. Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:19:22 -0700 From: <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15 folding rudder To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <031b01d78253$243839c0$6ca8ad40$(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hopefully the fiberglass option has the same shape, weight, and size of the original wood one. The reason I say that is that my M15 came with a Ruddercraft that was like 6 inches longer than the original, and so much heavier. The person who had it made did it because he had too much weather helm and wanted to counteract that. I adjusted the rig for better balance, and went back to the original wood rudder. What a difference. It is light, responsive, and works correctly in the clever kick up arrangement of the original M15. So much better performance. I understand your reasoning with regards the slip etc, but I would be careful not to compromise the boat performance when sailing. I sold my M15 and now sail a SCAMP that I built. But the M15 is a wonderful craft.

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