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Fwd: Looking for list managers
by kdiehl 10 Sep '19

10 Sep '19

I don't know why my email formatting got so screwed up. I'll try again below... -------- Original message --------From: kdiehl <kdiehl(a)xmission.com> Subject: Looking for list managers My health is not good and I want to ensure that Montgomery_Boats continues on.I'm looking for a couple of long time list members to share the minimal management tasks and carry on when I cannot. My prime requirements are years of list membership showing an understanding of the easy going nature if the list, and a commitment to maintaining this institution as a mailing list. If others want a Google Group or similar, good on them but this is a mailing list with all the good and bad that implies. Contact me directly if you're interested and we can talk more. I suppose ultimately there should be a membership confirmation process.Keith DiehlKdiehl(a)xmission.com

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Looking for list managers
by kdiehl 10 Sep '19

10 Sep '19

My health is not good and I want to ensure that Montgomery_Boats continues on.I'm looking for a couple of long time list members to share the minimal management tasks and carry on when I cannot. My prime requirements are years of list membership showing an understanding of the easy going nature if the list, and a commitment to maintaining this institution as a mailing list. If others want a Google Group or similar, good on them but this is a mailing list with all the good and bad that implies. Contact me directly if you're interested and we can talk more. I suppose ultimately there should be a membership confirmation process.Keith DiehlKdiehl(a)xmission.com

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Name for my boat - Votes needed
by David Grah 10 Sep '19

10 Sep '19

I am oddly comforted reading the article. Thanks Dave! Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 09:30:45 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Name for my boat - Votes needed Message-ID: <CAGjBOA5HkR2r-6d0JGkU6VYqzdOBej5F_+n9Mj3o8fgzwDHm8w(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm of the firm belief that a boat will name herself. Sometimes for a new-to-you boat that is the name she already has. I renamed my M15. I kept the name of my M17 even though I wasn't a game if it when I bought the boat, but what I immediately began to call her - she told me what she wanted. What calls to you? How do you refer to the boat? If you rename be sure to follow these instructions - https://48north.com/1987/06/01/tbt-vigors-interdenominational-boat-denaming… :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred/

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Possible Monty 15 for sale in Seattle?
by Rusty Knorr 09 Sep '19

09 Sep '19

I’m doing the same as several others, but taking the shortcut route. I’m on my way Fri down to California to pick up a Gig Harbor SCAMP to possibly replace my M15. I was planning on sailing both through the winter and deciding which to keep in the spring, but I’m willing to pass my boat on to the right person if I can find them. Please contact me OFF LIST to discuss any details or ask questions. I have lots of great pics of the boat under sail! Fair winds, Rusty on Vanilla www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: M-15 for sale (doug) > 2. Re: M-15 for sale (Doug 9326) > 3. Re: M-15 for sale (Paul Baker) > 4. Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (John Schinnerer) > 5. Re: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (Daniel Rich) > 6. Re: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (John Schinnerer) > 7. Re: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (Daniel Rich) > 8. Re: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (Gail Russell) > 9. Re: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (Gail Russell) > 10. Re: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA (Thomas Howe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 12:06:13 -0700 > From: doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 for sale > Message-ID: > <CAKuJGDx26V0FX58WrV0-Q78FKAO6ivZyk-Fr_JfyvSi4JMdCvQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I will get that later today along with some photos. Thanks. > >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 7:03 PM Paul Baker <avalonjazz(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Doug, >> Do you know what year it is? >> Thanks very much, Paul >> >>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 4:31 PM Doug 9326 <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have a nice Montgomery 15 with trailer that I need to sell. Name is >>> ?Poof? in nice graphics on port and starboard stern. It is in very good >>> shape and nearly original in terms of deck, rigging and added equipment. >>> Gel coat is in great shape with a few surface dings. Nice interior with >>> vinyl cushions in great shape, no tears or repairs. Porta-potti. No >>> electronics. Main and jib both in good shape with no tears or repairs. >>> Nice standing and running rigging. Very solid 2hp Honda 4 stroke >> recently >>> tuned up. Attached rear stout stainless boarding ladder. Teak >> handrails, >>> drop board into cabin, teak exterior trim around companionway and along >>> full length of deck joint. Original kick up rudder with new teak tiller. >>> New sail cover. Trailer has some surface rust but its solid and tires >> are >>> good. Lights work as new. Includes spare tire. Anchor for lunch stops >> or >>> fishing. Extra fuel tank. All in all a very nice M-15 in great shape. >> No >>> problems with retractable keel, rudder, motor or trailer. >>> Email for more info to doug9326(a)gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com>. >>> Boat is located in Bend, Oregon as is owner. Asking $4000. No test >> sails >>> or delivery. Pick up in Bend, Oregon. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 17:43:38 -0700 > From: Doug 9326 <doug9326(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 for sale > Message-ID: <5160C446-1362-4C43-809F-C3C2B181A13C(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Paul?.. > Did not get the year of my boat yet and the day is coming to a close here in Oregon. I will tomorrow. Its a very early M-15. As I recall its hull no. 4. It was in a watertight garage for many many years and it shows. The entire boat is in great condition with a few chips out on the transom and on the bow where the previous owner hit a rock while trying to launch. Nothing structural, just gel coat. Where I live we don?t have any fiberglass shops and I have been too lazy to haul it to Portland for that small repair. > I will send some photos I took today. If you have more questions, feel free to ask and I will get the boats age to you tomorrow. Sorry for the delay but today was very busy. > > Doug > >> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:06 PM, doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I will get that later today along with some photos. Thanks. >> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 7:03 PM Paul Baker <avalonjazz(a)gmail.com <mailto:avalonjazz@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hi Doug, >> Do you know what year it is? >> Thanks very much, Paul >> >>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 4:31 PM Doug 9326 <doug9326(a)gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I have a nice Montgomery 15 with trailer that I need to sell. Name is >>> ?Poof? in nice graphics on port and starboard stern. It is in very good >>> shape and nearly original in terms of deck, rigging and added equipment. >>> Gel coat is in great shape with a few surface dings. Nice interior with >>> vinyl cushions in great shape, no tears or repairs. Porta-potti. No >>> electronics. Main and jib both in good shape with no tears or repairs. >>> Nice standing and running rigging. Very solid 2hp Honda 4 stroke recently >>> tuned up. Attached rear stout stainless boarding ladder. Teak handrails, >>> drop board into cabin, teak exterior trim around companionway and along >>> full length of deck joint. Original kick up rudder with new teak tiller. >>> New sail cover. Trailer has some surface rust but its solid and tires are >>> good. Lights work as new. Includes spare tire. Anchor for lunch stops or >>> fishing. Extra fuel tank. All in all a very nice M-15 in great shape. No >>> problems with retractable keel, rudder, motor or trailer. >>> Email for more info to doug9326(a)gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com> <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com>>. >>> Boat is located in Bend, Oregon as is owner. Asking $4000. No test sails >>> or delivery. Pick up in Bend, Oregon. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 17:52:57 -0700 > From: Paul Baker <avalonjazz(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 for sale > Message-ID: > <CAHcOfcLkVjgN3eL_e9VX=qfuR2VU-X7vWVKPD_eLSXgefgRP3Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Ok. Thanks Doug. > I look forward to seeing some pics. > I appreciate your effort. > Paul > >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 5:44 PM Doug 9326 <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Paul?.. >> Did not get the year of my boat yet and the day is coming to a close here >> in Oregon. I will tomorrow. Its a very early M-15. As I recall its hull >> no. 4. It was in a watertight garage for many many years and it shows. >> The entire boat is in great condition with a few chips out on the transom >> and on the bow where the previous owner hit a rock while trying to launch. >> Nothing structural, just gel coat. Where I live we don?t have any >> fiberglass shops and I have been too lazy to haul it to Portland for that >> small repair. >> I will send some photos I took today. If you have more questions, feel >> free to ask and I will get the boats age to you tomorrow. Sorry for the >> delay but today was very busy. >> >> Doug >> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:06 PM, doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I will get that later today along with some photos. Thanks. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 7:03 PM Paul Baker <avalonjazz(a)gmail.com <mailto: >> avalonjazz(a)gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Hi Doug, >>> Do you know what year it is? >>> Thanks very much, Paul >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 4:31 PM Doug 9326 <doug9326(a)gmail.com <mailto: >> doug9326(a)gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a nice Montgomery 15 with trailer that I need to sell. Name is >>>> ?Poof? in nice graphics on port and starboard stern. It is in very >> good >>>> shape and nearly original in terms of deck, rigging and added >> equipment. >>>> Gel coat is in great shape with a few surface dings. Nice interior >> with >>>> vinyl cushions in great shape, no tears or repairs. Porta-potti. No >>>> electronics. Main and jib both in good shape with no tears or repairs. >>>> Nice standing and running rigging. Very solid 2hp Honda 4 stroke >> recently >>>> tuned up. Attached rear stout stainless boarding ladder. Teak >> handrails, >>>> drop board into cabin, teak exterior trim around companionway and along >>>> full length of deck joint. Original kick up rudder with new teak >> tiller. >>>> New sail cover. Trailer has some surface rust but its solid and tires >> are >>>> good. Lights work as new. Includes spare tire. Anchor for lunch >> stops or >>>> fishing. Extra fuel tank. All in all a very nice M-15 in great >> shape. No >>>> problems with retractable keel, rudder, motor or trailer. >>>> Email for more info to doug9326(a)gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com> >> <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com>>. >>>> Boat is located in Bend, Oregon as is owner. Asking $4000. No test >> sails >>>> or delivery. Pick up in Bend, Oregon. >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 22:25:17 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: <e78764cd-7ded-84dc-c4c4-45d31dd425de(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: > https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… > > cheers, > John > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 22:31:41 -0700 > From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: <7C4295A8-DD01-4027-B627-4491371C91A6(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > OK, that is really peculiar. That is a photo of my boat Kestrel taken around 2011 when I first bought her from Bob Becker. That is my boat in front of my house. Why this photo is being used without my permission is really strange. I wonder what the story is here? I just sold the boat on Saturday. > > Daniel > >> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:25 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >> >> Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: >> https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… >> >> cheers, >> John >> >> -- >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >> -------------------------------------------- >> - Eco-Living - >> Whole Systems Design Services >> People - Place - Learning - Integration >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >> http://eco-living.net >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 22:58:42 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: <b21df724-839a-71ad-0c4f-f6758ba0c0bf(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I was thinking it looked like your trailer, but that was the standard > trailer for most of them anyhow. Somehow I thought your stripe was green > but obviously I remembered that wrong! > > It says posted two days ago... > > Did you sell it to someone in Monterey area, who might have seen it as > underpriced, and is trying to 'flip' it for a few grand quick profit? > > That would suck...maybe we should 'out' them if that's the case. > > Some of the details sound like cut & paste of your ad. > You'd think they could at least take their own pictures! > > And it looks like they've edited out the registration numbers on the > bow. I see what looks like a slightly off color blob where that would > be. And maybe near stern, did you have her name there in white on the red? > > This is weird... > > cheers, > John > > >> On 9/3/19 10:31 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: >> OK, that is really peculiar. That is a photo of my boat Kestrel taken around 2011 when I first bought her from Bob Becker. That is my boat in front of my house. Why this photo is being used without my permission is really strange. I wonder what the story is here? I just sold the boat on Saturday. >> >> Daniel >> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:25 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >>> >>> Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: >>> https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… >>> >>> cheers, >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> - Eco-Living - >>> Whole Systems Design Services >>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>> http://eco-living.net >>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>> >> >> > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 23:05:41 -0700 > From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: <D837982E-D20B-4B8F-8874-1BCCD49667A6(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Really weird. The CF numbers are blocked out. That picture is taken straight out of my blog from 2011, but in that photo the CF number is visible. The life lines are there, which I later removed. I mentioned it in my ad. I would be surprised if the guy I sold it to were doing that, but I intend to find out! I have the guys contact information, and I will call him. > > The guy I sold it to was very knowledgeable about boats. He invited me to sail with him anytime, and that the boat will be kept at his house in Santa Rosa. > > I will try to get to the bottom of this if I can. > > Daniel > >> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:58 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >> >> I was thinking it looked like your trailer, but that was the standard trailer for most of them anyhow. Somehow I thought your stripe was green but obviously I remembered that wrong! >> >> It says posted two days ago... >> >> Did you sell it to someone in Monterey area, who might have seen it as underpriced, and is trying to 'flip' it for a few grand quick profit? >> >> That would suck...maybe we should 'out' them if that's the case. >> >> Some of the details sound like cut & paste of your ad. >> You'd think they could at least take their own pictures! >> >> And it looks like they've edited out the registration numbers on the bow. I see what looks like a slightly off color blob where that would be. And maybe near stern, did you have her name there in white on the red? >> >> This is weird... >> >> cheers, >> John >> >> >>> On 9/3/19 10:31 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: >>> OK, that is really peculiar. That is a photo of my boat Kestrel taken around 2011 when I first bought her from Bob Becker. That is my boat in front of my house. Why this photo is being used without my permission is really strange. I wonder what the story is here? I just sold the boat on Saturday. >>> Daniel >>>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:25 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: >>>> https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> John >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>> - Eco-Living - >>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>>> http://eco-living.net >>>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>>> >> >> -- >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >> -------------------------------------------- >> - Eco-Living - >> Whole Systems Design Services >> People - Place - Learning - Integration >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >> http://eco-living.net >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 12:40:17 +0200 > From: Gail Russell <gail(a)zeliga.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: > <CAKCiK2JW72N4t1Wfa1MBx+eGoQfBaV3N0t3GtZWUpVYOdJmb+w(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Someone is either reselling your boat, or running a scam. > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 7:32 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> OK, that is really peculiar. That is a photo of my boat Kestrel taken >> around 2011 when I first bought her from Bob Becker. That is my boat in >> front of my house. Why this photo is being used without my permission is >> really strange. I wonder what the story is here? I just sold the boat on >> Saturday. >> >> Daniel >> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:25 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: >>> >> https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… >>> >>> cheers, >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> - Eco-Living - >>> Whole Systems Design Services >>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>> http://eco-living.net >>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 12:45:07 +0200 > From: Gail Russell <gail(a)zeliga.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: > <CAKCiK2KjfjLMRgva6PA+cBWN0M+ft-c4YOiEByx5sN4CLWoxWw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Flag the craigslist post. > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 8:10 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Really weird. The CF numbers are blocked out. That picture is taken >> straight out of my blog from 2011, but in that photo the CF number is >> visible. The life lines are there, which I later removed. I mentioned it in >> my ad. I would be surprised if the guy I sold it to were doing that, but I >> intend to find out! I have the guys contact information, and I will call >> him. >> >> The guy I sold it to was very knowledgeable about boats. He invited me to >> sail with him anytime, and that the boat will be kept at his house in Santa >> Rosa. >> >> I will try to get to the bottom of this if I can. >> >> Daniel >> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:58 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking it looked like your trailer, but that was the standard >> trailer for most of them anyhow. Somehow I thought your stripe was green >> but obviously I remembered that wrong! >>> >>> It says posted two days ago... >>> >>> Did you sell it to someone in Monterey area, who might have seen it as >> underpriced, and is trying to 'flip' it for a few grand quick profit? >>> >>> That would suck...maybe we should 'out' them if that's the case. >>> >>> Some of the details sound like cut & paste of your ad. >>> You'd think they could at least take their own pictures! >>> >>> And it looks like they've edited out the registration numbers on the >> bow. I see what looks like a slightly off color blob where that would be. >> And maybe near stern, did you have her name there in white on the red? >>> >>> This is weird... >>> >>> cheers, >>> John >>> >>> >>>> On 9/3/19 10:31 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: >>>> OK, that is really peculiar. That is a photo of my boat Kestrel taken >> around 2011 when I first bought her from Bob Becker. That is my boat in >> front of my house. Why this photo is being used without my permission is >> really strange. I wonder what the story is here? I just sold the boat on >> Saturday. >>>> Daniel >>>>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:25 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: >>>>> >> https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> - Eco-Living - >>>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>>>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>>>> http://eco-living.net >>>>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> - Eco-Living - >>> Whole Systems Design Services >>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>> http://eco-living.net >>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 12:59:45 +0000 > From: Thomas Howe <Thomas(a)thomashoweonline.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > Message-ID: > <BYAPR11MB35589304B15620A5E4B968B0AFB80(a)BYAPR11MB3558.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Scammer. This is a common ploy in the Real Estate world. They scrape the picture and data, and repost.Try contacting the seller, as a na?ve buyer. You will be asked to send a deposit, and there will be no face to face contact with the party. This is a major problem with CList. > > Thomas Howe > McGrew Real Estate > 785-550-1169 > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gail Russell > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:45 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA > > Flag the craigslist post. > >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 8:10 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Really weird. The CF numbers are blocked out. That picture is taken >> straight out of my blog from 2011, but in that photo the CF number is >> visible. The life lines are there, which I later removed. I mentioned >> it in my ad. I would be surprised if the guy I sold it to were doing >> that, but I intend to find out! I have the guys contact information, >> and I will call him. >> >> The guy I sold it to was very knowledgeable about boats. He invited me >> to sail with him anytime, and that the boat will be kept at his house >> in Santa Rosa. >> >> I will try to get to the bottom of this if I can. >> >> Daniel >> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:58 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking it looked like your trailer, but that was the >>> standard >> trailer for most of them anyhow. Somehow I thought your stripe was >> green but obviously I remembered that wrong! >>> >>> It says posted two days ago... >>> >>> Did you sell it to someone in Monterey area, who might have seen it >>> as >> underpriced, and is trying to 'flip' it for a few grand quick profit? >>> >>> That would suck...maybe we should 'out' them if that's the case. >>> >>> Some of the details sound like cut & paste of your ad. >>> You'd think they could at least take their own pictures! >>> >>> And it looks like they've edited out the registration numbers on the >> bow. I see what looks like a slightly off color blob where that would be. >> And maybe near stern, did you have her name there in white on the red? >>> >>> This is weird... >>> >>> cheers, >>> John >>> >>> >>>> On 9/3/19 10:31 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: >>>> OK, that is really peculiar. That is a photo of my boat Kestrel >>>> taken >> around 2011 when I first bought her from Bob Becker. That is my boat >> in front of my house. Why this photo is being used without my >> permission is really strange. I wonder what the story is here? I just >> sold the boat on Saturday. >>>> Daniel >>>>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:25 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: >>>>> >> https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat- >> and/6969465141.html >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> - Eco-Living - >>>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - >>>>> 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> - Eco-Living - >>> Whole Systems Design Services >>> People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - >>> 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 199, Issue 4 > ************************************************

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Sailing at Fern Ridge lake in Oregon late September
by John Schinnerer 08 Sep '19

08 Sep '19

Hi all, This is Fern Ridge lake near Eugene, OR. I'll be going up there with my M17 "Pajarita" either the 20th or 22nd of September, not sure yet, will post when I figure it out. Will be there four days, sailing and also visiting some friends in Eugene at some point. Camping on my boat in the marina. If you're in the vicinity and want to go sail let me know and we can figure something out. Whether you have your own Monty to bring, or some other boat, or no boat and just want to get out on the water sailing. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Another Monty 15 for sale, in Monterey, CA
by John Schinnerer 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Just stumbled over this while looking for something else: https://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/d/monterey-montgomery-15-sailboat-and/6… cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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M-15 for sale
by Doug 9326 04 Sep '19

04 Sep '19

I have a nice Montgomery 15 with trailer that I need to sell. Name is ‘Poof’ in nice graphics on port and starboard stern. It is in very good shape and nearly original in terms of deck, rigging and added equipment. Gel coat is in great shape with a few surface dings. Nice interior with vinyl cushions in great shape, no tears or repairs. Porta-potti. No electronics. Main and jib both in good shape with no tears or repairs. Nice standing and running rigging. Very solid 2hp Honda 4 stroke recently tuned up. Attached rear stout stainless boarding ladder. Teak handrails, drop board into cabin, teak exterior trim around companionway and along full length of deck joint. Original kick up rudder with new teak tiller. New sail cover. Trailer has some surface rust but its solid and tires are good. Lights work as new. Includes spare tire. Anchor for lunch stops or fishing. Extra fuel tank. All in all a very nice M-15 in great shape. No problems with retractable keel, rudder, motor or trailer. Email for more info to doug9326(a)gmail.com <mailto:doug9326@gmail.com>. Boat is located in Bend, Oregon as is owner. Asking $4000. No test sails or delivery. Pick up in Bend, Oregon.

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Replace Rusty steel in keel project finished
by James Hymes 02 Sep '19

02 Sep '19

Ive completed my major keel project, replacing the rusty steel with lead shot. For pics and narrative email me at jamesehymes(a)gmail.com. Jim Hymes

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posting M17 for sale
by scott cruse 01 Sep '19

01 Sep '19

How do I post my M17 for sale on this site? I have already subscribed to this website.

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For Sale: 1983 Montgomery 17
by scott cruse 01 Sep '19

01 Sep '19

Boat Name: Nothin's Ez Location: Coeur d'Alene, ID Seller: Scott Description: Hull# 366. Boat has been restored and in good shape. Sails are in good shape. Cabin cushions replaced; sun canopy; 2017 Tohatsu 6 HP 4-stroke engine with about 40 hours; vented boat cover; Trailer has 4' adjustable tongue extension for SUV/Car towing; motor mount added on trailer; a reliable keel guide for boat on-center with trailer roller; replaced trailer bunk boards. Have a lot of pics if interested. Price: $8000

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