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M23
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 07 Jul '17

07 Jul '17

Congratulations to both of you! sal

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trailering cover for Monty 15
by Karen & Smiley 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

All, I contacted these guys http://www.sailorstailor.com/ but they have never made a cover for a Monty 15 so they want me to draw out a pattern for them, seems like a lot of work on my end with no discount. Does anybody have a proven vendor that has a cover designed for a 2000 vintage Monty 15. Thanks Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net <mailto:Magoo252@comcast.net>

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M15 water in bilge after 3 days on the lake
by Sam 31 May '17

31 May '17

Hi Montgomery owners, We took our new (to us) 1984 M15 out for a 3 day trip on Lake Pend Oreille over the weekend. It was a lot of fun, our first time sleeping at anchor, 65 miles traveled (some of them even sailing when the wind was blowing!). However, when I got the boat back home and was unpacking it, and checking things, I found a few inches of water in the narrow slot behind the centerboard. I'm not sure how it could have gotten in there since the bottom and everything appears to be in good shape from what I can see with the boat on the trailer. The centerboard seems to work fine (aside from splashing a bit when we raise/lower it which I think is normal from reading the forums). Is having a small amount of water collect there after that length of time an indication of serious problems? Is there anything else that I should check? Thanks! Sam M15 #272

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Cleat for centerboard pennant ripped out
by Tyler Heerwagen 31 May '17

31 May '17

Hi all, Looking for advice. My cleat for my centerboard line ripped out as shown. As you can see it was screwed into a bit of teak and actually broke the fiberglass frame surrounding it. Any experience with this? A better way to secure it? Any advice welcome! Thanks Tyler Heerwagen M-17 Seranita #232

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Re: M_Boats: M15 swollen centerboard
by Dave Scobie 29 May '17

29 May '17

Be great for you to share photos on the MSOGphotosite! Contact Gerry Wyatt at webmaster(a)msogphotosite.com so you can get login credentials to post the pictures. Thanks for offering to share! :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 3:20 PM, KWW707 <kww707(a)comcast.net> wrote: Be absent quite awhile but started getting boat ready to start sailing > again. I need to replace the mainsheet cam cleat setup and would like to > reduce the profile of the original setup. Has anyone tried a Ronstan RF58 > or similar? Does anyone know what is being used on the new boats? Also I > have some interesting photos of my swelled centerboard but don't know where > to post photos. Thanks kww707 M15 Sail 128 > >

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Pajarita's keel, continued...
by John Schinnerer 29 May '17

29 May '17

Hi all, Some of you may recall that at end of last season, I noticed a small damp spot persisting below aft end of my keel as the boat sat on the trailer. And it turned out that somehow some water had gotten in there, very slowly, and was dripping out, very slowly. I then investigated further with some test holes into the keel, determining that some small amount of water had gotten in some areas of the bottom of the keel. The drip was from port side CB stop bolt area so I started exploring. Update is - the port side hole for CB stop bolt was compromised. In essence there was a "vein" of ballast punchings running through the area where the hole had been drilled. A very small vein, but nonetheless...a direct path to whatever interior voids could be seeped to from that point. I can only guess that at some point whatever sealant had been used on that end of the bolt ceased to seal. Fix for that side is done - I drilled out oversized, filled with thickened resin, re-drilled. So there is now a solid collar of thickened resin between the bolt in its hole and any entry to the keel voids. The starboard side, which I initially thought was untroubled, was a different story. In looking at it closely I could see - and dig out - some soft caulking in the area around the bolt head. Further investigation revealed a vein of caulk running between layers of trunk and keel...and some other materials not the original, on top of the original gelcoat (easy to spot as it is the orange/tangerine color). Short story appears to be, at some point, possibly far past, someone likely dropped the keel hard and busted out the bottom side on that side of the keel stop bolt. Or something close to it. In sanding and grinding and ferreting out the caulk vein, I felt much like I imagine a dentist feels working to clean out a cavity before filling the tooth. Bottom line is that there was a major patch done around the stop bolt and a bit forward on the bottom of keel on the starboard side, and at some point either it was damaged again and caulk used to patch, or, it was just a really crappy job to start with. So I cut and/or ground away all the junk, and found that it all led to solid resin. The only actual seepage into the keel was most likely on the port side. So now I am re-constructing the starboard side...it just needs to hold the stop bolt, there's nothing structural affecting the keel itself. I've been taking some pics that I will post later on...the bad news is, more work than I thought. The good news is, soon it will all be solid and sealed again and I can get her sailing! cheers, john S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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M15 Mainsheet Cleat
by KWW707 29 May '17

29 May '17

Be absent quite awhile but started getting boat ready to start sailing again. I need to replace the mainsheet cam cleat setup and would like to reduce the profile of the original setup. Has anyone tried a Ronstan RF58 or similar? Does anyone know what is being used on the new boats? Also I have some interesting photos of my swelled centerboard but don't know where to post photos. Thanks kww707 M15 Sail 128

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M15 for sale in Port Ludlow WA
by Becky Belding 29 May '17

29 May '17

Just walked by this M15 for sale now at my marina in Port Ludlow if anyone on the lookout! Becky Grace M17 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: M_Boats: list settings - reply default
by Keith R. Martin 29 May '17

29 May '17

John, I have just hit reply it seems to go to the whole list.. Keith R. Martin, P.Eng On May 29, 2017 2:02 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: Did the list admin change list settings so that the default reply is now to sender, not list? It always used to be list. But now when I hit reply it defaults to sender (the person who posted the message). thanks, John S. On 05/29/2017 10:39 AM, Steve Trapp wrote: > Does the R2AK 2017 start from Boat Haven or Port Hudson in Port > Townsend? What time on June 8, 2017? > When do entrants begin arriving for their staging? > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- From: Howard Audsley > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:39 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sculling oar for Montgomery 15 > > From the archives........ > > http://msog.org/how-to/oars.cfm > > If memory serves, best I could get out of it was about 2 knots in a calm. > Tried it against a bit of wind once, and it was no go. > > BTW, if anyone in the Midwest is interested, I've decided to pass > stewardship of my M17 on to someone else. I'm not using her and someone > else should be. > > If interested, contact me offline for details. > > Howard > 573-819-6969 > > On May 24, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Jim Sadler wrote: > > Are any of you skippers using a sculling or instead of outboard? >> >> How does it workout? >> >> Capt Jim >> Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: montgomery_boats >> [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of >> bownez(a)juno.com >> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:22 AM >> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mpls M17 >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> Nokomis is quite a pond compared to Superior! >> I had a buoy on that lake with my first daysailer, a Capri 14.2. >> Are you in the neighborhood? >> We should meet at Sandcastle for a bite and a beverage! >> >> Michael "Bones" Bowden >> >> M17 #92 >> Former M23 #75 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times >> The Observer >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/591ee396413a639510c0st01vuc >> >> >> >> > > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Sculling oar for Montgomery 15
by Jim Sadler 29 May '17

29 May '17

Are any of you skippers using a sculling or instead of outboard? How does it workout? Capt Jim Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of bownez(a)juno.com Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:22 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mpls M17 Hi Dan, Nokomis is quite a pond compared to Superior! I had a buoy on that lake with my first daysailer, a Capri 14.2. Are you in the neighborhood? We should meet at Sandcastle for a bite and a beverage! Michael "Bones" Bowden M17 #92 Former M23 #75 ____________________________________________________________ Police Urge Americans to Carry This With Them at All Times The Observer http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/591ee396413a639510c0st01vuc

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