December 2015 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Ashland , Whiskeytown
by Mark Dvorscak 12 Dec '15

12 Dec '15

Whiskeytown lake is a great sailing lake. I sailed my there many years ago. The water is clear and deep and it never seemed to be very crowded. No boat camping permitted though! You had to have a shore campsite. There are, however, boat access only campsites. Lots of Redding sailors keep their boats at the Marina there. The power boaters seem to prefer Shasta & Trinity. Scenery is beautiful and there are lots of coves and islands to explore. We enjoyed sailing there quite a bit. That's about all for my contribution to this thread. Sent from my U.S. Cellular® smartphone John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >Hi Neil, > >For the benefit of anyone else in the general vicinity... >Some brief replies, there's lots of details but I'll start with the basics. > >Emigrant is just outside of Ashland (six miles from downtown). State rec >area with camping, picnicking, two ramps (launch/retrieve docks only, no >long-term tie-up). Other access locations for hand-launch, cartop or >dinghies on small trailers. > >Howard Prairie is historically the main sailing lake near here. Most >consistent wind patterns; has moorings, marina, etc., and home of the >RYC (http://www.rogueyachtclub.org/) >However as the RYC home pages now says...it's a reservoir, not a true >lake, and last couple years it has never even got to 50% full, so RYC >appears to have moved recent activities to Lost Creek "lake" (also a >reservoir). >Hyatt Reservoir is near Howard Prairie. >You can see current reservoir level reports for all three here: >http://www.usbr.gov/pn/hydromet/roguetea.html > >A little further in the same direction is Lake of the Woods, a true >lake, even after several dry years it is only a couple feet down in late >fall. Old style resort (dates from 1920's) with small marina, several >campgrounds, ramps at resorts and campgrounds, cabins along much of the >shore. That's the only place I've sailed my Monty thus far since I got >it late September this year. Beautiful mountain/forest setting, view of >Mt. McLoughlin (9495 ft. volcanic peak, tallest in region). > >Closer to you on the way here via I-5 would be Shasta, Whiskeytown, >Trinity, & Irongate reservoirs. Haven't tried those yet. Thinking of >checking out Whiskeytown next year. Water levels will vary...let's see >what this winter brings to the west coast. > >Klamath Lake is very big, quite shallow, green with algae (not good >swimming, zero depth visibility), consistent winds in season, often >gusty (in my limited experience), has the KYC: http://www.kycsail.us/ > >The Ensenada 20 I have (before I got my M-17) was in Klamath and I >sailed her there half a dozen or so times this past season. Water level >only drops three feet (tightly controlled) in a typical season but that >is enough to make a lot of the lake risky shallow for the deep rudder on >an M-17. I banged my E20 rudder on rocks in a shallow area well away >from the shore the last time out. > >There's more fairly big lakes further north and east, over and up >towards Bend - Waldo lake recently mentioned here is a gem, no infernal >combustion motors allowed. Diamond, Crescent, Odell... > >The Cascade Lakes loop east of Bend has multiple gorgeous small & a few >medium lakes. Access varies, for trailer-bound boats. Elk lake has a >small marina with slips. Some others have ramps & launch-retrieve docs; >some are hand-carry only (kayaks, canoes, small light dinghies). > >Overall - lots of small to medium-large freshwater options not too far >away, some depending on reservoir levels. Wind varies by location, and >will often be flukey and swirly as one might expect from foothill and >mountain lake sailing. > >If you want to get salty, it's about three hours from Ashland to >Brookings-Harbor, maybe 20 min. less to Crescent city - the two closest >drive-to point on the Pacific coast. > >cheers, >John S. > > >On 12/11/2015 12:13 PM, Neil Dorf wrote: >> John, >> >> just curious, what's your best go-to sailing venue for the >> Ashland-Medford area? Can you comment on Emigrant Lake, Hyatt >> Reservoir, Howard Prarire? Do you venture over to Klamath Lake? >> >> I am an M15 owner down in the Sacramento area and, after having driven >> up to Medford for business on a couple of occasions, wondered about the >> sailing up there. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Neil >> >> On 12/11/2015 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >> wrote: >>> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to >>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. 2016 WrinkleBoatICR / Arizona Yacht Club Birthday Regatta / >>> Leukemia Cup (GILASAILR(a)aol.com) >>> 2. M-15 in Ashland, OR - are you on this list? (John Schinnerer) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:10:54 -0500 >>> From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com >>> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> Subject: M_Boats: 2016 WrinkleBoatICR / Arizona Yacht Club Birthday >>> Regatta / Leukemia Cup >>> Message-ID: <3e4680.3f317189.439b6e8e(a)aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>> >>> http://arizonayachtclub.org/ayc-bdr/ >>> The link to the AzYC Regatta page is included above - the ONLY event you >>> need to sign-up for in order to be scored for the WICR is the "Birthday >>> Regatta" . I do not see Entry link as of today - will send out smoke >>> signals >>> when registration is active >>> The Friday racing is optional (good warm-up) and the Leukemia Cup is >>> optional. We have had some of the highest participation per fleet in the >>> Leukemia Cup each year for the recent past - can we do it again for a >>> good cause? >>> Any questions regarding RV parking , lodging, slips at the marina etc. >>> may >>> be directed to my gilasailr at ay Oh el . com address. or call at 602 >>> 703-7245. >>> We may have a special guest this year - will see at the Lake !?! BTW >>> ALL >>> the participants and crew are special guests ! ! >>> I am working on a special event shirt - should have info soon, shirt will >>> be available to participants. >>> Thank You for your patience and the bandwidth. >>> GO >>> will post link at _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ >>> (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:46:55 -0800 >>> From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Subject: M_Boats: M-15 in Ashland, OR - are you on this list? >>> Message-ID: <566A1CFF.4060606(a)eco-living.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I am in Ashland, OR. There's an M-15 here - is the owner on this list? >>> If you are, and want to get in touch, please do, I have an M-17, also in >>> Ashland. >>> >>> I saw the M-15 again today (a buddy of mine spotted it a month or more >>> ago, we figured it was just passing through), parked in a lot for some >>> condo/apartments (OSU student housing I think?) on California St. just >>> off E. Main, across from Garfield park, with a blue tarp over it. >>> >>> cheers, >>> John S. >>> >> >> > >-- >John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >-------------------------------------------- >- Eco-Living - >Whole Systems Design Services >People - Place - Learning - Integration >john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >http://eco-living.net >http://sociocracyconsulting.com >

2 1

Ashland
by Neil Dorf 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

John, just curious, what's your best go-to sailing venue for the Ashland-Medford area? Can you comment on Emigrant Lake, Hyatt Reservoir, Howard Prarire? Do you venture over to Klamath Lake? I am an M15 owner down in the Sacramento area and, after having driven up to Medford for business on a couple of occasions, wondered about the sailing up there. Thanks, Neil On 12/11/2015 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 2016 WrinkleBoatICR / Arizona Yacht Club Birthday Regatta / > Leukemia Cup (GILASAILR(a)aol.com) > 2. M-15 in Ashland, OR - are you on this list? (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:10:54 -0500 > From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: 2016 WrinkleBoatICR / Arizona Yacht Club Birthday > Regatta / Leukemia Cup > Message-ID: <3e4680.3f317189.439b6e8e(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > http://arizonayachtclub.org/ayc-bdr/ > > The link to the AzYC Regatta page is included above - the ONLY event you > need to sign-up for in order to be scored for the WICR is the "Birthday > Regatta" . I do not see Entry link as of today - will send out smoke signals > when registration is active > The Friday racing is optional (good warm-up) and the Leukemia Cup is > optional. We have had some of the highest participation per fleet in the > Leukemia Cup each year for the recent past - can we do it again for a good cause? > > Any questions regarding RV parking , lodging, slips at the marina etc. may > be directed to my gilasailr at ay Oh el . com address. or call at 602 > 703-7245. > > We may have a special guest this year - will see at the Lake !?! BTW ALL > the participants and crew are special guests ! ! > > I am working on a special event shirt - should have info soon, shirt will > be available to participants. > > Thank You for your patience and the bandwidth. > > GO > > will post link at _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ > (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:46:55 -0800 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: M-15 in Ashland, OR - are you on this list? > Message-ID: <566A1CFF.4060606(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi all, > > I am in Ashland, OR. There's an M-15 here - is the owner on this list? > If you are, and want to get in touch, please do, I have an M-17, also in > Ashland. > > I saw the M-15 again today (a buddy of mine spotted it a month or more > ago, we figured it was just passing through), parked in a lot for some > condo/apartments (OSU student housing I think?) on California St. just > off E. Main, across from Garfield park, with a blue tarp over it. > > cheers, > John S. > -- -Neil --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

2 1

M-15 in Ashland, OR - are you on this list?
by John Schinnerer 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

Hi all, I am in Ashland, OR. There's an M-15 here - is the owner on this list? If you are, and want to get in touch, please do, I have an M-17, also in Ashland. I saw the M-15 again today (a buddy of mine spotted it a month or more ago, we figured it was just passing through), parked in a lot for some condo/apartments (OSU student housing I think?) on California St. just off E. Main, across from Garfield park, with a blue tarp over it. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

1 0

2016 WrinkleBoatICR / Arizona Yacht Club Birthday Regatta / Leukemia Cup
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

http://arizonayachtclub.org/ayc-bdr/ The link to the AzYC Regatta page is included above - the ONLY event you need to sign-up for in order to be scored for the WICR is the "Birthday Regatta" . I do not see Entry link as of today - will send out smoke signals when registration is active The Friday racing is optional (good warm-up) and the Leukemia Cup is optional. We have had some of the highest participation per fleet in the Leukemia Cup each year for the recent past - can we do it again for a good cause? Any questions regarding RV parking , lodging, slips at the marina etc. may be directed to my gilasailr at ay Oh el . com address. or call at 602 703-7245. We may have a special guest this year - will see at the Lake !?! BTW ALL the participants and crew are special guests ! ! I am working on a special event shirt - should have info soon, shirt will be available to participants. Thank You for your patience and the bandwidth. GO will post link at _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com)

1 0

Re: M_Boats: M15 For Sale, Boston, MA
by bownez＠juno.com 09 Dec '15

09 Dec '15

Larry, You need this M15! You would then have 2 M-boats with the same serial number! I recall Corndog is #200. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Easy Ways to Destroy Your Digestion Hattaka K et al, "Effect of long term consumption of probiotic milk on ... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/56683a19d6b013a1964b5st02vuc

4 4

M15 For Sale, Boston, MA
by swwheatley＠comcast.net 08 Dec '15

08 Dec '15

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/5348895788.html Don't know the boat or the buyer, but I don't see it listed on the MSOG website and Montys are pretty rare around here, so I figured some New England peeps might appreciate a heads up.

1 1

Re: M_Boats: hello
by Josh ua 08 Dec '15

08 Dec '15

Hi Skip Connie and Steve, We are joining a club in Omaha and plan to take a few lessons and enroll the kids in a summer long sailing school next season...so when I say heartland...I mean dead center CONUS. There is another M15 in the club boatyard intrestingly enough. Josh M15 Honey Bee On Dec 5, 2015 1:00 PM, <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Professional photos from previous WICR - great shots ! > (GILASAILR(a)aol.com) > 2. Michael Mann's book. (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 3. Re: Michael Mann's book. (William Campion) > 4. Re: Michael Mann's book. (Beowulf2) > 5. Re: Michael Mann's book. (Conbert Benneck) > 6. Re: Michael Mann's book. (Thomas Buzzi) > 7. Hello (Josh ua) > 8. Re: Hello (wcampion(a)aol.com) > 9. Re: Michael Mann's book. (Conbert Benneck) > 10. Re: Hello (Conbert Benneck) > 11. Re: Hello (Steve Trapp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 14:48:58 -0500 > From: GILASAILR(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Professional photos from previous WICR - great shots > ! > Message-ID: <5af4a.5d43d30d.4393482a(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > 2014 Photos from WICR/Birthday Regatta - available for purchase from Peter > Howson Yachting Photography > > sorry - you will have to cut/paste - can't attach that many - enjoy - (my > 'home water' for over 50 years) > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e3c8b2163 The venue > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e3304c75a Skippers > Meeting > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e2bc3f279 > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e3ed473eb > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e3b46c1e3 > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e2025311c > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e2546a1c3 > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e3325f651 Happy dude ! ! > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e3224e48d 'for me?? > Really??' > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e22677243 Birthday > Party > for AzYC > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e289d2e83 same old > saguaro.... > > http://saillog.zenfolio.com/2014azycbdayregatta/e23ec2660 > > If this looks fun - pretty - friendly - warm - _______ come on out ! We'd > be honored to sail with you ! ! > > GO > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:21:36 -0800 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Michael Mann's book. > Message-ID: <2E9EF88E5EE14DBFB8392B3BCFC110D8@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Mike- I?m using the list to answer you for two reasons- first, my computor > has put you on a list of addresses it doesn?t like and refuses to send > messages to, along with my brother, Small Craft Advisor, and others. It > appears to be either magic or God?s Will and nobodies? fault, but a year > and a new computor later, it?s still happening. The second reason is that > people need to know that your book is out. It just came in, looks great, > and I?ll read it this weekend. Thanks very much. maybe Dave Scobie will > forward this to you; he seems to get everything I send out and is good > about forwarding. I send my SCA columns to him and he forwards them to > Josh! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:50:53 -0500 > From: William Campion <wcampion(a)aol.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Michael Mann's book. > Message-ID: <53A7E749-5E7E-47E9-AC4B-7B21901345DB(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Gee I wish I had a personal assistant. Dave are you interested? If not > maybe Santa will bring me one for Christmas? l > > Skip > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:21 PM, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> < > jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > > > Mike- I?m using the list to answer you for two reasons- first, my > computor has put you on a list of addresses it doesn?t like and refuses to > send messages to, along with my brother, Small Craft Advisor, and others. > It appears to be either magic or God?s Will and nobodies? fault, but a year > and a new computor later, it?s still happening. The second reason is that > people need to know that your book is out. It just came in, looks great, > and I?ll read it this weekend. Thanks very much. maybe Dave Scobie will > forward this to you; he seems to get everything I send out and is good > about forwarding. I send my SCA columns to him and he forwards them to > Josh! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 15:12:26 -0800 > From: Beowulf2 <beowulf2(a)cox.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Michael Mann's book. > Message-ID: <C2FEF1EC-3217-4277-90C9-065C07949F0B(a)cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Read the book last weekend. Enjoyed every page of it. Couldn't put it > down. When I finished I went out to my side yard and had a long visit with > my 1981 M15 #167 and tried to imagine sailing it to Hawaii. Amazing story! > > Mike Hall > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:21 PM, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> < > jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > > > Mike- I?m using the list to answer you for two reasons- first, my > computor has put you on a list of addresses it doesn?t like and refuses to > send messages to, along with my brother, Small Craft Advisor, and others. > It appears to be either magic or God?s Will and nobodies? fault, but a year > and a new computor later, it?s still happening. The second reason is that > people need to know that your book is out. It just came in, looks great, > and I?ll read it this weekend. Thanks very much. maybe Dave Scobie will > forward this to you; he seems to get everything I send out and is good > about forwarding. I send my SCA columns to him and he forwards them to > Josh! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:16:15 -0600 > From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Michael Mann's book. > Message-ID: <566248EF.5060304(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 12/4/2015 3:21 PM, jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > > Hi Jerry, > > Mike wrote a wonderful book. > > The experienced sailors say we left XX heading for YY, 18 days > enroute, had a small storm where we had to reef / heavy to, but arrived > safely at our destination. This is the experienced sailor speaking. > > Mike, on the other hand, decided to sail to Hawaii in an M-15. > > He plans, equips his boat and then takes off. > > What Mike explains in elegant detail is his reaction to being out on the > Pacific Ocean alone. > > - What the hell am I doing out here? > > - Now what? > > - How do I solve this problem? > > ....and gradually you experience with him the acceptance that day 14 has > been completed, and day 15 is going to more of the same. ...and day 16 > is more of the same, but I managed to do 75 nautical miles in 24 hours. > > You get a feel for his growing into the passage; how he feels; how he > reacts; what he misses; what he should take along the next time. > > He keeps you on the edge of your seat as he gets closer to Hawaii. He > screwed up his sextant adjustment. Where the hell am I.....? > > Do I sail past Hawaii because I'm too far south....? Then > what.....? Beat to windward to try and get back to Hawaii again? > > Obviously he made it. > > It's a great story for anyone leaving land behind for the first time. > Water water everywhere.... now what? .... and it's a great feeling to > see an island appear out of the sea in front of your bow; and you can > home in on your destination harbor. > > Congratulations Mike for giving us all such and elegantly written > account of your journey and your feelings enroute. > > Your book is a "Must Read" for a sailor. > > Connie > > Mike- I?m using the list to answer you for two reasons- first, my > computor has put you on a list of addresses it doesn?t like and refuses to > send messages to, along with my brother, Small Craft Advisor, and others. > It appears to be either magic or God?s Will and nobodies? fault, but a year > and a new computor later, it?s still happening. The second reason is that > people need to know that your book is out. It just came in, looks great, > and I?ll read it this weekend. Thanks very much. maybe Dave Scobie will > forward this to you; he seems to get everything I send out and is good > about forwarding. I send my SCA columns to him and he forwards them to > Josh! > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 22:27:52 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Michael Mann's book. > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAVYwKaWoitkkP8c6unhF-RR7cUsMXW= > EJGdu7UcSBXf6g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Ah, to be 22 again like Mike on his Little Breeze. Apparently those little > 15's are put together pretty well. Made me feel EVEN BETTER about my 17. If > that's possible. > 75 miles a day is pretty good on a 15' boat. > Tom B > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On 12/4/2015 3:21 PM, jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > Mike wrote a wonderful book. > > > > The experienced sailors say we left XX heading for YY, 18 days enroute, > > had a small storm where we had to reef / heavy to, but arrived safely at > > our destination. This is the experienced sailor speaking. > > > > Mike, on the other hand, decided to sail to Hawaii in an M-15. > > > > He plans, equips his boat and then takes off. > > > > What Mike explains in elegant detail is his reaction to being out on the > > Pacific Ocean alone. > > > > - What the hell am I doing out here? > > > > - Now what? > > > > - How do I solve this problem? > > > > ....and gradually you experience with him the acceptance that day 14 has > > been completed, and day 15 is going to more of the same. ...and day 16 is > > more of the same, but I managed to do 75 nautical miles in 24 hours. > > > > You get a feel for his growing into the passage; how he feels; how he > > reacts; what he misses; what he should take along the next time. > > > > He keeps you on the edge of your seat as he gets closer to Hawaii. He > > screwed up his sextant adjustment. Where the hell am I.....? > > > > Do I sail past Hawaii because I'm too far south....? Then what.....? > > Beat to windward to try and get back to Hawaii again? > > > > Obviously he made it. > > > > It's a great story for anyone leaving land behind for the first time. > > Water water everywhere.... now what? .... and it's a great feeling to > see > > an island appear out of the sea in front of your bow; and you can home in > > on your destination harbor. > > > > Congratulations Mike for giving us all such and elegantly written account > > of your journey and your feelings enroute. > > > > Your book is a "Must Read" for a sailor. > > > > Connie > > > >> Mike- I?m using the list to answer you for two reasons- first, my > >> computor has put you on a list of addresses it doesn?t like and refuses > to > >> send messages to, along with my brother, Small Craft Advisor, and > others. > >> It appears to be either magic or God?s Will and nobodies? fault, but a > year > >> and a new computor later, it?s still happening. The second reason is > that > >> people need to know that your book is out. It just came in, looks > great, > >> and I?ll read it this weekend. Thanks very much. maybe Dave Scobie > will > >> forward this to you; he seems to get everything I send out and is good > >> about forwarding. I send my SCA columns to him and he forwards them to > >> Josh! > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 02:34:03 -0600 > From: Josh ua <jsheintz(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Hello > Message-ID: > <CAHC= > 9rT8eOsT+CXOrpja5Y-6UY4QjLe0A0ANLju33USPJG9z3Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > We're new to sailing. A relative gave us an Alumacraft 12 foot pram with > no sail. We ordered a kit from sailrite and put a sail together on the > living-room floor, duct taped a giant hole in the hull and took the boat to > the nearest water. Then we knew we liked sailing and so I began an intense > research endeavor to figure out what kind of sailors we thought we wanted > to be. We decided we are definitely not racers, but unable to be satisfied > with lack of performance. We are social folks and loners all at the same > time. We like to plan things out but we're also spontaneous. We are frugal > which means we don't buy cheap (if you know what I'm saying.) I read > several books and the entire internet in about a month and after one day it > was obvious the best boats ever were Montgomery's.The rest of my research > only drove that point further home. We we were fortunate enough to become > the stewards of M15 HN 115 on labor day of 2015. I bought her from > Minneapolis, took her home and named her Honey Bee after my wife Melissa. > With 35 year old sails she catches more air than she needs in anything > above 12 knots but we really enjoy the 6 to 10 knot days on local waters > and we've tried to keep her off the trailer as much as possible. New sails > are in the works but replacing a dead computer and bald tires, filling the > propane tank and holiday travel gas tanks are taking presidence. As for > Honey Bee's condition, she looks like she's been garaged and well taken > care of since 1980 and she's nestled in her place out of the weather in the > shed today. Glad to be a Montgomery enthusiast and looking forward to > meeting others. Anyone have any favorite heartland waters? > Josh > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 05:47:51 -0500 > From: wcampion(a)aol.com > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hello > Message-ID: <15171c1483e-504c-1c205(a)webprd-a16.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Josh, > > It's nice to have you aboard. You will find this list invaluable with > information concerning Montgomery boats, overall sailing information and > discussions, along with limitless friendships potential. I'm glad you > decided on a Montgomery. You definitely can't go wrong with one of Jerry's > (Lyle Hess) boats. > > In your email, you didn't actually mention which port your boat is > registered? lol I live on the east coast and sail mostly on the > Chesapeake Bay. I own a 1982 M-15 who also looks very good for her age. I > don't sail as much as I'd like, but that's only due to life's other > necessities. However, as soon as I win the MEGA Million jackpot, I'm sure > to give up those responsibilities quicker then a bad habit and head for the > water. But I digress............... > > You'll meet a lot of good people on this listserv and have plenty of > opportunity to share and gain knowledge. Enjoy your new toy........ > > > Skip > M-15 1982 # 201 (Wild Guppy) > M-5 1977 #177 (Lil Guppy) > Fatty Knees 8' #806 (Mast Transit) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh ua <jsheintz(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2015 3:34 am > Subject: M_Boats: Hello > > We're new to sailing. A relative gave us an Alumacraft 12 foot pram with > no sail. We ordered a kit from sailrite and put a sail together on the > living-room floor, duct taped a giant hole in the hull and took the boat to > the nearest water. Then we knew we liked sailing and so I began an intense > research endeavor to figure out what kind of sailors we thought we wanted > to be. We decided we are definitely not racers, but unable to be satisfied > with lack of performance. We are social folks and loners all at the same > time. We like to plan things out but we're also spontaneous. We are frugal > which means we don't buy cheap (if you know what I'm saying.) I read > several books and the entire internet in about a month and after one day it > was obvious the best boats ever were Montgomery's.The rest of my research > only drove that point further home. We we were fortunate enough to become > the stewards of M15 HN 115 on labor day of 2015. I bought her from > Minneapolis, took her home and named her Honey Bee after my wife Melissa. > With 35 year old sails she catches more air than she needs in anything > above 12 knots but we really enjoy the 6 to 10 knot days on local waters > and we've tried to keep her off the trailer as much as possible. New sails > are in the works but replacing a dead computer and bald tires, filling the > propane tank and holiday travel gas tanks are taking presidence. As for > Honey Bee's condition, she looks like she's been garaged and well taken > care of since 1980 and she's nestled in her place out of the weather in the > shed today. Glad to be a Montgomery enthusiast and looking forward to > meeting others. Anyone have any favorite heartland waters? > Josh > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 07:58:21 -0600 > From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Michael Mann's book. > Message-ID: <5662ED7D.6010400(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 12/4/2015 10:27 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > Tom, > > I just checked his daily logs, and Mike put in several days in the Trade > Winds doing 81 to 87 NM in 24 hours. > > Connie > > PS Corrections to my email: > > heavy should be "heave to" > > Ah, to be 22 again like Mike on his Little Breeze. Apparently those > little > > 15's are put together pretty well. Made me feel EVEN BETTER about my 17. > If > > that's possible. > > 75 miles a day is pretty good on a 15' boat. > > Tom B > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> On 12/4/2015 3:21 PM, jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote: > >> > >> Hi Jerry, > >> > >> Mike wrote a wonderful book. > >> > >> The experienced sailors say we left XX heading for YY, 18 days > enroute, > >> had a small storm where we had to reef / heavy to, but arrived safely at > >> our destination. This is the experienced sailor speaking. > >> > >> Mike, on the other hand, decided to sail to Hawaii in an M-15. > >> > >> He plans, equips his boat and then takes off. > >> > >> What Mike explains in elegant detail is his reaction to being out on the > >> Pacific Ocean alone. > >> > >> - What the hell am I doing out here? > >> > >> - Now what? > >> > >> - How do I solve this problem? > >> > >> ....and gradually you experience with him the acceptance that day 14 has > >> been completed, and day 15 is going to more of the same. ...and day 16 > is > >> more of the same, but I managed to do 75 nautical miles in 24 hours. > >> > >> You get a feel for his growing into the passage; how he feels; how he > >> reacts; what he misses; what he should take along the next time. > >> > >> He keeps you on the edge of your seat as he gets closer to Hawaii. He > >> screwed up his sextant adjustment. Where the hell am I.....? > >> > >> Do I sail past Hawaii because I'm too far south....? Then what.....? > >> Beat to windward to try and get back to Hawaii again? > >> > >> Obviously he made it. > >> > >> It's a great story for anyone leaving land behind for the first time. > >> Water water everywhere.... now what? .... and it's a great feeling to > see > >> an island appear out of the sea in front of your bow; and you can home > in > >> on your destination harbor. > >> > >> Congratulations Mike for giving us all such and elegantly written > account > >> of your journey and your feelings enroute. > >> > >> Your book is a "Must Read" for a sailor. > >> > >> Connie > >> > >>> Mike- I?m using the list to answer you for two reasons- first, my > >>> computor has put you on a list of addresses it doesn?t like and > refuses to > >>> send messages to, along with my brother, Small Craft Advisor, and > others. > >>> It appears to be either magic or God?s Will and nobodies? fault, but a > year > >>> and a new computor later, it?s still happening. The second reason is > that > >>> people need to know that your book is out. It just came in, looks > great, > >>> and I?ll read it this weekend. Thanks very much. maybe Dave Scobie > will > >>> forward this to you; he seems to get everything I send out and is good > >>> about forwarding. I send my SCA columns to him and he forwards them to > >>> Josh! > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 08:11:35 -0600 > From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hello > Message-ID: <5662F097.7070809(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 12/5/2015 2:34 AM, Josh ua wrote: > > Welcome aboard Josh and Melissa, > > With an M-15 you can travel and sail anywhere.... > > Take a road map of your area; make successive 50 / 100 mile circles > around your home base and you'll be amazed to see all the sailing area > possibilities you will discover. > > As you get more adventurous and with more sailing experience look at the > Florida Keys; or the West Coast of Florida at Clearwater. > Lovely sailing areas, when the weather gets cold up north, during the > winter months. > > Finding solitude is easy with an M-15. If you get annoyed by PWCs or > other powerboats, haul out and go elsewhere.... preferably a place with > thin water and lots of underwater rocks. That is a sure-fire deterrent > for noisy motorboat types. > > We've sailed on Moosehead Lake, ME, Lake Champlain, NY (a lovely place), > the Chesapeake - the world is your oyster. > > Have fun, and good sailing > > Connie > > ex M-15 #400 LEPPO > > > > We're new to sailing. A relative gave us an Alumacraft 12 foot pram with > > no sail. We ordered a kit from sailrite and put a sail together on the > > living-room floor, duct taped a giant hole in the hull and took the boat > to > > the nearest water. Then we knew we liked sailing and so I began an > intense > > research endeavor to figure out what kind of sailors we thought we wanted > > to be. We decided we are definitely not racers, but unable to be > satisfied > > with lack of performance. We are social folks and loners all at the same > > time. We like to plan things out but we're also spontaneous. We are > frugal > > which means we don't buy cheap (if you know what I'm saying.) I read > > several books and the entire internet in about a month and after one day > it > > was obvious the best boats ever were Montgomery's.The rest of my research > > only drove that point further home. We we were fortunate enough to become > > the stewards of M15 HN 115 on labor day of 2015. I bought her from > > Minneapolis, took her home and named her Honey Bee after my wife Melissa. > > With 35 year old sails she catches more air than she needs in anything > > above 12 knots but we really enjoy the 6 to 10 knot days on local waters > > and we've tried to keep her off the trailer as much as possible. New > sails > > are in the works but replacing a dead computer and bald tires, filling > the > > propane tank and holiday travel gas tanks are taking presidence. As for > > Honey Bee's condition, she looks like she's been garaged and well taken > > care of since 1980 and she's nestled in her place out of the weather in > the > > shed today. Glad to be a Montgomery enthusiast and looking forward to > > meeting others. Anyone have any favorite heartland waters? > > Josh > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 09:42:00 -0800 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hello > Message-ID: <818E793CBDDC4AFC914D39F812182613@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Josh ua, > Where are you located, what part of the of the country? There seem to > be M-boaters near most of the lakes and coastal inlets everywhere in the > U.S. and > much of Canada., including many of us in the PNW, the States of Washington, > Oregon, and Idaho. Another M- boater in your area will likely contact you, > want > to see your boat, and even offer tips about the boats and sailing them. I > will also suggest getting into sailing lessons, well worth the money, and > offered by > marinas and sailing clubs everywhere. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh ua > Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 12:34 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Hello > > We're new to sailing. A relative gave us an Alumacraft 12 foot pram with > no sail. We ordered a kit from sailrite and put a sail together on the > living-room floor, duct taped a giant hole in the hull and took the boat to > the nearest water. Then we knew we liked sailing and so I began an intense > research endeavor to figure out what kind of sailors we thought we wanted > to be. We decided we are definitely not racers, but unable to be satisfied > with lack of performance. We are social folks and loners all at the same > time. We like to plan things out but we're also spontaneous. We are frugal > which means we don't buy cheap (if you know what I'm saying.) I read > several books and the entire internet in about a month and after one day it > was obvious the best boats ever were Montgomery's.The rest of my research > only drove that point further home. We we were fortunate enough to become > the stewards of M15 HN 115 on labor day of 2015. I bought her from > Minneapolis, took her home and named her Honey Bee after my wife Melissa. > With 35 year old sails she catches more air than she needs in anything > above 12 knots but we really enjoy the 6 to 10 knot days on local waters > and we've tried to keep her off the trailer as much as possible. New sails > are in the works but replacing a dead computer and bald tires, filling the > propane tank and holiday travel gas tanks are taking presidence. As for > Honey Bee's condition, she looks like she's been garaged and well taken > care of since 1980 and she's nestled in her place out of the weather in the > shed today. Glad to be a Montgomery enthusiast and looking forward to > meeting others. Anyone have any favorite heartland waters? > Josh > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 154, Issue 3 > ************************************************ >

2 1

Another one gone
by Bill Wickett 06 Dec '15

06 Dec '15

We sent the Montgomery 17 to a new home/owner on Saginaw Bay, Michigan. Sold a couple of days after posting the ad on MSOG.org. They picked it up today. Was a great boat for us since 2009. Great memories of so many good trips. Thanks to this terrific group for all your ideas, advice, suggestions. I think I will stay logged in and lurk, or suggest, as needed. Now looking forward to launch day for the 1986 Nonsuch 22. C'mon spring. Bill Wickett ex Makin' Time M17 #622

2 1

Another one gone
by Thomas Buzzi 06 Dec '15

06 Dec '15

Hi Bill, The Nonsuch 22 is a great boat. Sorry to see you trade down though.😉 Good luck with the new sailer. Tom B.

1 0

Hello
by Josh ua 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

We're new to sailing. A relative gave us an Alumacraft 12 foot pram with no sail. We ordered a kit from sailrite and put a sail together on the living-room floor, duct taped a giant hole in the hull and took the boat to the nearest water. Then we knew we liked sailing and so I began an intense research endeavor to figure out what kind of sailors we thought we wanted to be. We decided we are definitely not racers, but unable to be satisfied with lack of performance. We are social folks and loners all at the same time. We like to plan things out but we're also spontaneous. We are frugal which means we don't buy cheap (if you know what I'm saying.) I read several books and the entire internet in about a month and after one day it was obvious the best boats ever were Montgomery's.The rest of my research only drove that point further home. We we were fortunate enough to become the stewards of M15 HN 115 on labor day of 2015. I bought her from Minneapolis, took her home and named her Honey Bee after my wife Melissa. With 35 year old sails she catches more air than she needs in anything above 12 knots but we really enjoy the 6 to 10 knot days on local waters and we've tried to keep her off the trailer as much as possible. New sails are in the works but replacing a dead computer and bald tires, filling the propane tank and holiday travel gas tanks are taking presidence. As for Honey Bee's condition, she looks like she's been garaged and well taken care of since 1980 and she's nestled in her place out of the weather in the shed today. Glad to be a Montgomery enthusiast and looking forward to meeting others. Anyone have any favorite heartland waters? Josh

4 3