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Search the archives?
by Charlie 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Is there a way to search the archives of this list? I've found the archives by month, but would like to do a keyword search before I go asking questions that might have been covered previously. Charlie M15 #411

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Sold our M-17
by Roger Miner 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

After mentioning our intentions to list Seranita, our M-17, we have made a deal to sell it as a result of an inquiry within the group on this site. Thanks to everyone and thanks for this web site! We'll be delivering Seranita to the new owners out in Palo Alto this June, and picking up the M-23 Dream Time in Bend, Oregon right after. Things seen to be working out!

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Re: M_Boats: Sold our M-17
by Mark & Roberta 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

Congratulations on the sale and the purchase. I am very well acquainted with Dream Time and am certain you will be quite happy with her. Although I am sad to be losing John & Julie as cruising companions, we did create many great memories together. I'm certain Dream Time will do the same for you. Who knows, maybe Faith and Dream Time will again cross tacks. Mark & Roberta Dvorscak M23 Faith On Feb 8, 2014 10:55 AM, Roger Miner <roger.miner25(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > After mentioning our intentions to list Seranita, our M-17, we have made a > deal to sell it as a result of an inquiry within the group on this site. > Thanks to everyone and thanks for this web site! We'll be delivering > Seranita to the new owners out in Palo Alto this June, and picking up the > M-23 Dream Time in Bend, Oregon right after. Things seen to be working out! >

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Mexico
by David Grah 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

Ha. Well, I certainly wouldn't recommend following me! Plus I have the impression you, Jerry, have a lot more knowledge of the area, especially from the perspective of being in a little sailboat, than any guidebook. A guidebook just gives me a chance to study a little on my own. I am definitely liking the idea of making this trip, with or without a group. The group sounds fun in a lot of ways though the complications and compromises always go up with more people. These things sort of go up with the square of the number of people. What is the best way to stay up to date on what you are planning? The Tucson event in Bahia San Carlos on the mainland side of the gulf is interesting but would be a really long drive for me starting from the middle of California. Bahia de Los Angeles on the Baja penninsula looks good to me on the basis of a Google Earth review and is a lot closer than San Carlos. Crossing the gulf from Bahia de Los Angeles to the Kino area sounds cool but the Kino area doesn't look as interesting from Google Earth. Driving to Kino also looks like a long way and not a very interesting way for me. The drive to Bahia de Los Angeles on the other hand looks doable and interesting. Where does one arrange to safely leave ones vehicle and trailer at Bahia de Los Angeles? What are the launching conditions like there? The islands nearer Bahia de Los Angeles seem to have more anchorages than those on the Kino / mainland side (of course I haven't been there in real life) and it seems like a very nice few days could be spent in the area of Bahia de Los Angeles. Tyler mentions March and October being the best times on the Sear of Cortez. March is a bit fast for me, June is doable but not inside of Tyler's windows, October would work well. I guess I better be getting with Elliot Patteson for a storm jib and a second reef in my mainsail. David Grah Bishop California Montgomery 15 - Sky Message: 16 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:03:25 -0800 From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: "David Grah" <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fw: Mexico Message-ID: <1C4B727155AF46A68BE411756B526A7B@jerryws10> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Good- we'll follow you! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Grah" <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 11:36 AM Subject: M_Boats: Fw: Mexico Well now I have gone and bought a guide book to the Sea of Cortez! http://bluelatitudepress.com/bl_products_SOC.html ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 8:34 AM Subject: Mexico I'd definitely be interested in a Mexico trip. June or October, with a slight preference for October. David Grah Bishop California Montgomery 15 - Sky Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 12:00:31 -0800 From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: "montgomery forum" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Mexico? Message-ID: <AE4373D8866846779407BCD766BD14D5@jerryws10> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" If anybody in interested, I'm thinking about taking my Sage down to Mexico in June to float around for a week or so and would be happy to have some company. I'd go to the midriff area, probably launching either at Bahia De Los Angeles on the Baja Side and island hopping across, or the other way around, launching at Kino Bay. I've done this area several times but not for about 20 or 25 years and really enjoyed it and it's time I did it again before I get too old. No marinas, no gas stops, no nothing, but I always caught enough fish to feed an army. Usually light air but nobody but an idiot would go w/o a storm jib, need good ground tackle, lots of gas, water and sunscreen. A group of 6 or 8 would be perfect. jerry --

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Mexico?
by jerry montgomery 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

If anybody in interested, I'm thinking about taking my Sage down to Mexico in June to float around for a week or so and would be happy to have some company. I'd go to the midriff area, probably launching either at Bahia De Los Angeles on the Baja Side and island hopping across, or the other way around, launching at Kino Bay. I've done this area several times but not for about 20 or 25 years and really enjoyed it and it's time I did it again before I get too old. No marinas, no gas stops, no nothing, but I always caught enough fish to feed an army. Usually light air but nobody but an idiot would go w/o a storm jib, need good ground tackle, lots of gas, water and sunscreen. A group of 6 or 8 would be perfect. jerry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 9971 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

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Mexico
by David Grah 06 Feb '14

06 Feb '14

I'd definitely be interested in a Mexico trip. June or October, with a slight preference for October. David Grah Bishop California Montgomery 15 - Sky Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 12:00:31 -0800 From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: "montgomery forum" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Mexico? Message-ID: <AE4373D8866846779407BCD766BD14D5@jerryws10> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" If anybody in interested, I'm thinking about taking my Sage down to Mexico in June to float around for a week or so and would be happy to have some company. I'd go to the midriff area, probably launching either at Bahia De Los Angeles on the Baja Side and island hopping across, or the other way around, launching at Kino Bay. I've done this area several times but not for about 20 or 25 years and really enjoyed it and it's time I did it again before I get too old. No marinas, no gas stops, no nothing, but I always caught enough fish to feed an army. Usually light air but nobody but an idiot would go w/o a storm jib, need good ground tackle, lots of gas, water and sunscreen. A group of 6 or 8 would be perfect. jerry

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Re: M_Boats: New Members, Roger & Debbie Miner
by bownez＠juno.com 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

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Calling Mark H.
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Tall rig - nice addition to your future Montgomery 17 here in AZ - see previous post - M-17 for sale.

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New Members, Roger & Debbie Miner
by Roger Miner 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Hello everyone. My wife Debbie and I are the proud owners of "Seranita", a beautifully restored 1977 M-17 (tall rig, galley model). We live on a great windy sailing lake (Keystone) just west of Tulsa, Oklahoma. We moved back to Oklahoma to help out with family after having lived aboard a 31 Cape Dory Cutter in Corpus Christie, TX. Although a big change, we've come to love our Montgomery. These are fast, stable and versatile boats - so easy to handle. Keystone is a large Corp lake with great open water and tons of interesting overnight spots with sandy beaches. Our M-17 has been the perfect boat to help us regain our inland water legs. But, it's been a little over two years and now we are hankering to spend more extended time aboard, exploring coastal waters. So, we've made a deal to purchase another lovingly restored Montgomery, the M-23 "Dream Time", from John and Julie Muller. They have done an incredible job with Dream Time (as chronicled by them on this website), and we are beyond excited to be her new owners. We'll be going out to John and Julie's in Bend, Oregon in June to close our deal and begin a summer adventure to Seattle and ports north. We appreciate your website and the great wealth of information provided by all of you owners and lovers of the great Montgomery boats. Seranita will be appearing for sale soon in the classifieds so, if you know someone looking for a perfect M-17, please pass it along. Glad to be in the Montgomery fold. Roger & Debbie Miner

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Re: M_Boats: Rigging a 79 M17
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Henry, I vote for 'Rosita' ' Ask someone (rigger) what the implications are for using the dyneema with your sheaves - they probably need to be 'cleaned up' (deburred) at least and may be better in a larger diameter? Backstay of dyneema is a good idea - will change mine when the time comes. Will send pictures of our deck/rigging next time I visit the boat. Remember - snow melts...runs off into waterways... and nurtures our watercourses and farmland/forests - we get little rain in the desert - no snow and have rocks and spiny hard plants here with very small and few waterways - BUT I LOVE IT! Lemons into Lemonade thing I guess. Hope the melt comes soon! Take Care Have Fun, Get ready to go sailing! GHenryO - great NAMES think alike! {:>) In a message dated 2/4/2014 2:14:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, heinzir(a)gmail.com writes: Thanks for all of the encouragement on my new purchase everyone. I can't wait to get my hands on her. Right now she is plowed in by snow on a farm several hundred miles north of here, and our winter does not seem as if it will ever end. I really envy you guys that are able to sail year round! Thanks, Gary, for the detailed description of how you have rigged your boat. I have had the same 6:1 tackle on a split backstay arrangement on Chiquita for a long time, using the same blocks as you do. Great minds think alike . . . . ??? I will be doing the same on the Monty. I'll probably replace the backstay with Dyneema (easier to coil than wire and easier on the deck/mast when trailering.) I too like the idea of no traveller; that's why I have dual main sheets on Chiquita. I'd like to try your split tail arrangement. I plan on having a 6:1 (3:1 cascaded) tack downhaul for the jib, led back to the cockpit, as well as a jib dowsing downhaul, and an 8:1 (4:1 cascaded) Cunningham or boom downhaul for the main. I should be able to cobble these up from blocks I have on hand. I should also be able to piece together an internal 6:1 outhaul in the boom. The main halyard has some meat hooks and I plan to replace the wire portion of both halyards with 1/8" Dyneema. Will I have to replace the masthead sheaves if they are otherwise in good shape? I'm not sure what I'll do about jib sheet anchors. Both jib and staysail sheet to the cabin top on Chiquita; there are no winches. I use Harken 150 cam cleats with the Xtreme fairleads that allow adjustment from anywhere in the cockpit. I'd love to see pictures of various M17 deck layouts; no point in reinventing the wheel. Might have to sail her a bit to see what feels right before making any changes there. Chiquita is still a work in progress and we've been together for 38 years! I think the new M17 will be the same. What do you all think of the name "Rosita"? Means "little rose" and rhymes with Chiquita (and Bonita ;-) Or "Half Pint"? Or . . . . . ??? -- Henry https://picasaweb.google.com/heinzir

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