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M15/flotation
by Tim Erwin 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Please disregard my question about flotation, I hope I didn't waste time. I talked to Mr. Eng today personally. He was very cordial and seems like a really nice fellow. They don't put any foam floatation in the 15. He suggested that I put two truck size inner tubes in the boat, one under vbirth one under cockpit floor. Put some air in them and forget about it. Sailboats are exempt from the positive floatation requirement for under 20' rule Question answered, easy solution. Nr. Eng seems like a nice guy, very helpful. Merry Christmas to all. Tim Erwin. "Dark Star " m15 # 641 Sent from my iPad

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Sculling oar
by Conbert Benneck 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Hi gang, Here is a website I found with instructions on how to build a sculling oar; and how it is used. I initially went to "sculling oars" and in poking around, this is the one I found. Knockabout Sloops: How to Build a *Sculling Oar* by Jerome FitzGerald <http://knockaboutsloops.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-to-build-sculling-oar-by-j…> As you will see from his diagrams, the end of the oar that's in the water is bent downwards so that as you swing it back and forth it acts as a vertical paddle propelling the boat. I also found some YouTube videos that show Chinese boats using yulohs in action. Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Skulling
by bownez＠juno.com 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

Rik, That's a very interesting device. Thanks for posting the link.... Bones ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b443413f7c4434144c0st01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: "paddle-ability" of the 17
by bownez＠juno.com 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

I played around with making a mount for a long oar for the transom on my M17. I tried it in the North Channel when I was up with the Monty flotilla several years ago. All it seemed to do was fishtale the boat with little forward progress. I KNOW I was not performing the correct lift, twist, shake, etc to the driving oar. I would like to figure it out sometime. I still have the oar and mount. Doug Keltch was watching me, I'm sure he was having a good chuckle. Bones ____________________________________________________________ 37 Items To Stockpile Don't Get Caught Without These 37 "Crucial" Items During A Crisis. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b3e3d91acb863d86042st03vuc

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Propane Conversion kits for Outboard outboards
by Jim Dahlquist 24 Nov '12

24 Nov '12

I have seen a video on youtube showing how to convert a portable generator from gasoline to propane. Now I would like to explore the idea of converting my old Suzuki DT4 2-cycle outboard if I could find a compatible kit. I think this would be cleaner and would not require any winter maintenance. So far I haven't been able to find anything. Maybe because generators are way too popular right now. But I wanted to at least get this idea on the list. BTW: It appears that searching the archives requires downloading the full data first. Is that correct? Jim Dahlquist jimdahlquist(a)gmail.com

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by Jim Dahlquist 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

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Check valve drain for a Montgomery 15
by Jim Dahlquist 21 Nov '12

21 Nov '12

I am a new owner of a 1994 Montgomery 15 for about 4 months now. Right now I am trying to install a home made check valve in the cockpit drain to block water trying to enter due to wave action. This also requires a pvc pipe for the centerboard rope. I have some "G/flex 650" that I think should be ok. Any ideas on how to get the two parts mounted and fully wetted by the epoxy while keeping it from dripping excessively into the CB trunk will be appreciated. I tested the valve. It seems ok. I made it from concentric polycarbonate cylinders. Also, the seal and ball are removable or replaceable from the top as instaled. The checkvalve has an ID of 0.875 inches and could accept a rubber or cork plug. There are some project photos linked below. The present plan has a smaller rope pipe fitting than shown in the view 1. Thanks, Jim Dahlquist jim(a)dhlqst.com Palatine, IL 847-341-0086 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv1Assy.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv2Hole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv3Hole-PipeHole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CheckValve01.jpg

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Re: M_Boats: Mainsail reefing
by Neil Dorf 06 Nov '12

06 Nov '12

Larry, you might check with Pac West Trailers on Roseville Road right off of I80 Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "Hughston, Larry@DGS" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Mainsail reefing Date: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:57 am I now have a Rav4 so I need to setup a new hitch and electrical plugs for boat trailer......Larry Hughston and M-15 Old 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Neil Dorf Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 6:16 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mainsail reefing Hi Larry, Just got back home from Monterey Cruiser Challenge; not sure when I will get TwoCan out next, but will let you know when I do. I can also snap a few pictures to send to you. My next sail actually may be to the Delta. Neil Sent from my iPad On Jul 12, 2012, at 8:55 AM, "Hughston, Larry@DGS" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> wrote: > I agree with the idea of photos and drawings when talking with beginners like me about attachment hardware or any detail on the decks of our M-15s and M-17s. Sure would help in setting up our own Wrinkle boats. I would > help by not having to drill unnecessary holes in our masts, booms and decks.. > > -------Thanks, Larry in Sacramento (M-15 Old 189 > > Ps....Neil, If you are out there when are you heading out Folsom Lake (Brown's Ravine) again? I want to see your trailer hitch extension. Mine is such a pain to set up single handed..... > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > pam and dana > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:59 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mainsail reefing > > Would someone be so kind as to add a couple pictures to illustrate > both the mast end and other end of the boom hardware. As a novice, > sometimes the language alone gets in the way of clear understanding. > > Thanks, Pam > M17 > Port Townsend, Wa > > > On Jul 8, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote: > >> I agree that tack cringles are relatively easy to secure with a hook, >> but I found that a 2-3" loop of light line backed by a plastic ball >> on the opposite side of the cringle makes securing to the hook >> faster. Sometimes I had struggled to get the second cringle over

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Mainsail reefing
by Tim Erwin 06 Nov '12

06 Nov '12

Hello from the Texas Redneck Riviera I am new to the boat and new to the group. I have learned a great deal from the discussions and looking to learning more. After sailing my Alberg 30 for many years she became too much for me. I've done a great deal of research on smaller boats and the M15 won out , hands down. I am very fortunate I found one 3 hours from my home. I'm 64 and have MS but I'm going to keep on sailing and this boat is going to allow me to do that. Now for my question. My boat is a 2007 model. Looking around, standard equipment is mainsail reefing . There is no sign of any reefing equipment on the boom. There are two turning blocks and two cleats on the outboard end. They are for the topping lift and outhaul. No other equipment on the boom at all. The mainsail has grommets for double reef! Do you think this boat was delivered incomplete? Do you think the folks that made this boat gave a discount for taking less than standard equipment or stripped down? I'm confused at least. Can anyone help me figure this out. Thanks, Tim Erwin. M15 # 641 Dark Star, Rockport, Texas

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