January 2011 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Little Breeze M15
by Michael Mann 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, My name is Michael Mann and in 1982, I sailed the Montgomery 15, Little Breeze from CA to Hawaii. I see on the web site that she has been rescued by new owners in Hawaii and I would love to correspond with them. I am currently sailing on a container ship headed for Honolulu and would welcome the chance to make contact. Thanks for any info. Michael Mann

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Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 14 Jul '13

14 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Re: M_Boats: racing my M23
by Larry E Yake 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

>So when is the next San Juan trip? Annual? Bi-annual? >Jeff Probably semi-annual. Larry

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Solar power
by bownez＠juno.com 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

Happy Holidays Listers..... I just received in the mail the Christmas present I bought my M17. It is a 30 watt solar power briefcase from a company called Goal Zero. They have a fabulous line of outdoor battery packs, cables, solar panels, and inverters.View the panel I bought at: http://store.goal0.com/index.php?p=product&id=14This will be a great addition to topping up your boat house battery when you away from shore power exploring the wild wilderness. I'm looking at all the snow outside my window, thinking about pleasant boating trips that await me...... Go small, go now.... Bones ____________________________________________________________ AIU Online® Official Site 90% Of Students are Satisfied With Their Experience at AIU. See Why! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d0cc89bda6e57bf2b7st06vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Dylan Winter Welcomes Havasu Sailors!!
by bownez＠juno.com 29 Jan '11

29 Jan '11

Listers, Like Sean, I have been following Dylan's series since the beginning. It is top notch entertainment for small boat sailors. Dylan's knowledge of area history and his dry sense of humor adds to the enjoyment.I would love to meet the man, he speaks our language. Man, his 19 footer "the Slug" sure is an ugly ducking, BUT, he's having the time of his life with it. Quite admirable. See you in Havasu. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Home Refinance 3.8% FIXED No Hidden Fees, Easy Approvals & Better Terms-Free Quotes-3.9% APR! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d442b3c93913e8d7bst01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model - new rudder
by bownez＠juno.com 29 Jan '11

29 Jan '11

Hi Lou, I have a 1976 model M17.Before Idasailor came along, I had a carpenter friend fabricate a kick up rudder for my boat mimicking the original design using white oak. It hinges in the middle between stainless steel cheek plates. It does not have the performance of the stock rudder, and is almost twice the weight. However, it is very robust and does its job when you run into a rock or skinny water.I wrote an article about it with pictures that Theo posted in one of the last issues of the Montgomery newsletter. I believe those can be found in the archives. Live large with your M-boat, quite easy to do!! Bones ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d44299232aa0e66955st06vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ sail
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Doug - I may make it up there on Sunday. I will see what the weekend brings. AYC is racing that weekend too. Gary O. M-17

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Lake Pleasant AZ sail
by Doug Kelch 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Any of you out there in AZ planning on sailing Lake Pleasant Sunday? The fcst is for a steady 8 mph breeze so it should be a nice comfortable day. Doug Kelch "Seas the Day"

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Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model.
by Jim Ellsworth 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Lou, I have the IdaSailer rudder and it is great. I had one on my WWP 19 and loved it. When I got my M-17 the large heavy wood rudder/tiller was a bear to handle. Also I went to the San Juan Islands June 2009 and we launch from a crane with the mast down so I was not sure what to do for a mast crutch. Well, IdaSailer has a mast crutch that attaches to the rudder so the rudder stays on the boat at all times. In addition at the same time I ordered a tiller and worked with them on hight and length so my tiller pilot ended up going into a small pin mounted on the top of the tiller instead of a big bracket on the bottom which I needed for the standard rudder/tiller arrangement. And working with the guys at IdaSalor was a plesent experience. Good Luck, Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace -----Original Message----- >From: Louis Remmers <louremmers(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Jan 28, 2011 11:16 AM >To: ndorf(a)surfbest.net, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. > >Thank you so much for responding. Do you have any idea about durability for a M >17 kick up rudder from this company? I was in a way dreading making a kick up >rudder but this solution appears to be well worth the expence. I want to get >the 17 ready by the first weekend in May as there is a get together at Cedar Key >near the bend in Florida ( just above Tampa) . Thanks Lou > > > > >________________________________ >From: "ndorf(a)surfbest.net" <ndorf(a)surfbest.net> >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 2:55:17 PM >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. > >Hi Louis, > >Another rudder option for you is that John Owens at J.O. Woodworks can make >you a beautiful new one (as he had done for me). > >John will also be at Havasu, as he was last year. > >His website is at > >http://www.jowoodworks.com > >And you can get his contact information there. > >Neil Dorf >1985 M15 "TwoCan" >Roseville, CA > > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: Louis Remmers louremmers(a)yahoo.com >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:21:33 -0800 (PST) >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. > > >YES new holes were drilled and a motor mounting plate was installed. The >transom did very well and i was pleased with the outcome. I am now trying >to >figure out how to make a kick up rudder. The origional had MANY knicks and >gouges and I have always been a kick up kind of guy. Thanks for your note . >Lou >Remmers > > > > >________________________________ >From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats ><montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 8:14:52 PM >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. > >Louis: > >the deck/transom joint can be a problem on the early M17s (meaning those >with a >transom cutout for the outboard). i'm making a guess ... at some point >prior to >your purchase did someone put a motor mount on the transom just below the >outboard cutout? > >jerry can make you new shrouds, fore- & back-stays- >www.jerrymontgomery.org > >good to read of another m-boat receiving some TLC. > > >- Dave Scobie >- M17 #375 - SWEET PEA :: www.m17-375.webs.com >- Sage Marine :: www.sagemarine.us > > >--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Louis Remmers <louremmers(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >I purchased a 1977 M 17 last January and have had fun rehabing it. I fell >in >love with the monty back when they frist came on the market. The boat I >have >needed a new transom , so I cut the " cap " off and dug out the rotted >plywood. >made a template with cardboard then to luan and finally marine ply with >excellent results. I replaced the aluminum drain in the underside of the >stern >and have all of the deck hardware off and am ready for the finish coat of >paint >when the weather cooperates. I hope to go to cedar key the first weekend >in May > >if I finish in time. I have had fun so far and need to work on my standing >rigging next. > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application >hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model.
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Hi Louis, Another rudder option for you is that John Owens at J.O. Woodworks can make you a beautiful new one (as he had done for me). John will also be at Havasu, as he was last year. His website is at http://www.jowoodworks.com And you can get his contact information there. Neil Dorf 1985 M15 "TwoCan" Roseville, CA Original Message: ----------------- From: Louis Remmers louremmers(a)yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:21:33 -0800 (PST) To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. YES new holes were drilled and a motor mounting plate was installed. The transom did very well and i was pleased with the outcome. I am now trying to figure out how to make a kick up rudder. The origional had MANY knicks and gouges and I have always been a kick up kind of guy. Thanks for your note . Lou Remmers ________________________________ From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 8:14:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. Louis: the deck/transom joint can be a problem on the early M17s (meaning those with a transom cutout for the outboard). i'm making a guess ... at some point prior to your purchase did someone put a motor mount on the transom just below the outboard cutout? jerry can make you new shrouds, fore- & back-stays- www.jerrymontgomery.org good to read of another m-boat receiving some TLC. - Dave Scobie - M17 #375 - SWEET PEA :: www.m17-375.webs.com - Sage Marine :: www.sagemarine.us --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Louis Remmers <louremmers(a)yahoo.com> wrote: I purchased a 1977 M 17 last January and have had fun rehabing it. I fell in love with the monty back when they frist came on the market. The boat I have needed a new transom , so I cut the " cap " off and dug out the rotted plywood. made a template with cardboard then to luan and finally marine ply with excellent results. I replaced the aluminum drain in the underside of the stern and have all of the deck hardware off and am ready for the finish coat of paint when the weather cooperates. I hope to go to cedar key the first weekend in May if I finish in time. I have had fun so far and need to work on my standing rigging next. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting

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