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Re: M_Boats: M 17 Ideal Outboard
by bownez＠juno.com 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Tim, Jerry has a funny letter about a big motor on an M17. I think he installed a V-8. He didn't know what the mast was for. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Nutrition Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=UgSCmfdys8DZQUsxYhghUAAAJ1ApM…

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M 17 Ideal Outboard
by Tim McInerney 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I've got a Honda 6HP longshaft on my M17 'Orion' here on the east coast (Long Island, NY) on the ocean. The cost difference vs. slightly smaller engines is negligible, the boat is totally capable of holding the negligible additional amount of weight on the stern, ....having the extra power....priceless!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: SALGLESSER(a)aol.com [mailto:SALGLESSER@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:04 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: shaft length for 2HP Honda Hi Bill, We're using a long shaft Honda 2 HP on our M15. We've used both long and regular shaft Honda 2 HP's and have had better results with the long shaft. We're using a West Marion adjustable bracket. I don't know if a 2 HP will be strong enough for an M17 in heavy winds. sal M15 - 1986 - #361 M23 - #2 - being built In a message dated 3/17/2010 7:49:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, billwick(a)gmail.com writes: I am having some lifting problems and am thinking of going from a 5HP to a 2HP Honda outboard. I believe some M17 owners are using Honda 2HP on their boats. If so are you using the long or short shaft version? I have the factory installed adjustable outboard bracket. Thanks, Bill M17 #622 "Makin' Time" _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: shaft length for 2HP Honda
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hi Bill, We're using a long shaft Honda 2 HP on our M15. We've used both long and regular shaft Honda 2 HP's and have had better results with the long shaft. We're using a West Marion adjustable bracket. I don't know if a 2 HP will be strong enough for an M17 in heavy winds. sal M15 - 1986 - #361 M23 - #2 - being built In a message dated 3/17/2010 7:49:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, billwick(a)gmail.com writes: I am having some lifting problems and am thinking of going from a 5HP to a 2HP Honda outboard. I believe some M17 owners are using Honda 2HP on their boats. If so are you using the long or short shaft version? I have the factory installed adjustable outboard bracket. Thanks, Bill M17 #622 "Makin' Time" _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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shaft length for 2HP Honda
by Bill Wickett 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

I am having some lifting problems and am thinking of going from a 5HP to a 2HP Honda outboard. I believe some M17 owners are using Honda 2HP on their boats. If so are you using the long or short shaft version? I have the factory installed adjustable outboard bracket. Thanks, Bill M17 #622 "Makin' Time"

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M16, Any Info on Jerry's M16
by David Schuster 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Any information on Jerry's M16? Was Jerry at the Havasu event? Thanks, David 2008 Montgomery 17

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New M 17 trailer - east coast
by Tim McInerney 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

I need a new trailer for M 17 Orion (hull #387). I'm on the east coast out of Southold, NY (ocean!!!) Anyone know of an east coast source? -----Original Message----- From: W David Scobie [mailto:wdscobie@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:30 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: trail-rite trailer specifications i'm needing to replace SWEET PEA's trailer axle and hubs. the trail-rite trailer was built sept of '83 and came with hub brakes. the brakes are long gone (rusted to a hollow shell) along with the surge hitch. all are past their working lives. the frame has been cleaned and repainted. i replaced the tongue (there is a story in that) late fall '09. the axle springs, rims and tires were replace in '08 by SWEEP PEA's prior owner. i need to find a replacement axle/hub assembly. the trailer is 'rated' for a load of 2490 pounds. i just don't know all the specs ... my 'quick and dirty' measurments are: * hub bolts are ~2 5/8" on center * the 'drop' for the hubs is 4" * the axle, square, is about 68" long. anyone have the specifics? does the pacific trailer used for the new M17's use the same axle and hubs as that used on the old trail-rite? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: trail-rite trailer specifications
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Dave, Give a call to Trail-Rite _http://www.trailrite.com/_ (http://www.trailrite.com/) Contact them with the serial and model number and they should be able to spec your axle. GO. In a message dated 3/16/2010 9:31:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, wdscobie(a)yahoo.com writes: i'm needing to replace SWEET PEA's trailer axle and hubs. the trail-rite trailer was built sept of '83 and came with hub brakes. the brakes are long gone (rusted to a hollow shell) along with the surge hitch. all are past their working lives. the frame has been cleaned and repainted. i replaced the tongue (there is a story in that) late fall '09. the axle springs, rims and tires were replace in '08 by SWEEP PEA's prior owner. i need to find a replacement axle/hub assembly. the trailer is 'rated' for a load of 2490 pounds. i just don't know all the specs ... my 'quick and dirty' measurments are: * hub bolts are ~2 5/8" on center * the 'drop' for the hubs is 4" * the axle, square, is about 68" long. anyone have the specifics? does the pacific trailer used for the new M17's use the same axle and hubs as that used on the old trail-rite? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: asymmetrical spinnaker for M17
by Thebaldyone2＠aol.com 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hi Phil, want to be here. I live in American Canyon, right next to Vallejo. Have you tried sailing around here? Good afternoon breezes, some tides. Good ramp in Vallejo, free? Like to talk montgomery with you. Drop me an email off site, like to chat. Ken In a message dated 3/15/2010 11:29:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, navillus(a)sonic.net writes: I'm new to the list. I have a 2001 M17. I live in Sonoma county CA and sail mostly in Lake Sonoma in the summer and Tomales Bay in the autumn. Both of these bodies of water are long and relatively narrow and have their long axes aligned with the prevailing winds, so my sailing is almost always either hard on the wind or a dead run. I'd like to add an asymmetrical spinnaker to the sail inventory this year. Has anyone experience sewing one of these from a Sailrite precut kit? Also, how have M17 sailors attached the head of the spinnaker to the mast head. There is enough room in the masthead fitting to rig another halyard, but I'm worried about chafe between the head of the sail and the top of the forestay. I plan to use long sheets and jibe the spinnaker around ahead of the forestay. Phil _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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asymmetrical spinnaker for M17
by Philip Sullivan 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

I'm new to the list. I have a 2001 M17. I live in Sonoma county CA and sail mostly in Lake Sonoma in the summer and Tomales Bay in the autumn. Both of these bodies of water are long and relatively narrow and have their long axes aligned with the prevailing winds, so my sailing is almost always either hard on the wind or a dead run. I'd like to add an asymmetrical spinnaker to the sail inventory this year. Has anyone experience sewing one of these from a Sailrite precut kit? Also, how have M17 sailors attached the head of the spinnaker to the mast head. There is enough room in the masthead fitting to rig another halyard, but I'm worried about chafe between the head of the sail and the top of the forestay. I plan to use long sheets and jibe the spinnaker around ahead of the forestay. Phil

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M17 For Sale
by John Crews 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

As you may know if you follow this list, my beloved 1974 M17 has some keel damage due to water getting into the steel punching ballast inside the keel. This has resulted in a 2-foot long horizontal crack on the rear part of the starboard side of the keel and a small bulge on the port side. I know what needs to or can be done to fix the damage as described on the MSOG website (cut open the keel, remove the rusted steel, repair with lead, repair the fiberglass), but I'm not willing to do it. Other than that the boat is in good shape. It's on a fairly new Pacific galvanized steel trailer. I have a fairly new Tohatsu 6hp extra-long shaft 4-stroke outboard on the transom. If you're interested I have a 1996 Ford Crown Victoria that I use only as a tow vehicle for this boat. It's in fairly good condition. I want to sell it all or just the boat and trailer to the highest bidder ASAP. Everything is in Morro Bay, CA. Please make me an offer if interested. Sincerely, John Crews

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