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Re: M_Boats: (variations on a potti theme)
by Larry E Yake 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Yes, no problem. On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:27:50 -0500 "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> writes: > Can the Pett baggys be used with the three gallon bucket?? > Joe > M17 Seafrog > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry E Yake" <leyake(a)juno.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: (variations on a potti theme) > > > >>>"Reliance makes two types, a cheap $20 toilet seat lid and cover > that > > sits on a standard 5 Gal. paint bucket, and a $40 "hassock" > model...I'm > > betting the 5 Gal bucket is too tall to fit in the M15 well.." > > > > Neil, > > > > I found a 3 gallon bucket at my local hardware store with the > same > > dimensions as the 5 gallon, except shorter. With the Reliance seat > lid, > > it's a perfect fit in the M17 well. I had to heat up the seat with > hot > > water to get it to snap on, but it's there to stay now. > > > > Larry Yake > > M17, CornDog > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
by Neil Dorf 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

<Was it legal? Depends Pun intended? -----Original Message----- From: Gotrain <bill(a)gotrain.org> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:32 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: (no subject) x-authenticated : Sender SMTP authenticated by smtp.gotrain.org X-XM-SPF: eid=;mid=;hst=03.mta.xmission.com;;;ipi.54.158.25;;;frm=ll(a)gotrain.org;;;spf=ne X-XM-DomainKey: sender_domain=train.org;;;sender=ll(a)gotrain.org;;;status=ror X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 69.54.158.25 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bill(a)gotrain.org X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa03 1397; Bodyuz1uz2= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sa03.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=.5 required=0 testsYES_00,DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,MISSING_HB_SEP,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG autolearn=sabled version=2.5 X-Spam-Combo: ;For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> X-Spam-Relay-Country: XX US X-Spam-Report: * 2.5 MISSING_HB_SEP Missing blank line between message header and body * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG * -3.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa03 1397; Bodyuz1uz2= Subject: Re: M_Boats: Porta Potti X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:26:12 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mx03.mta.xmission.com) Hey guys, What do you think happens with diposible diapers, both baby and adult? Last year, I had the opportunity to watch adult diapers go into a dumpster on a daily basis at a skilled nursing facility, and in large quantities too. Was it legal? Depends. The only precaution I saw, was that the diapers were put into plastic trash bags. Pett's site also states that the bags are landfill approved. Another reason for not poking around in landfills. Bill Day M15 336 Gee whiz! Putting your waste in bags, and dropping those bags into a dumpster is sure better than the baby diapers we often see in parking lots and beside highways. On Jan 4, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Doug Kelch <doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Rik, > > You are right. It is very bad form and should not be done. > > Thanks > > Doug Kelch > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:31:24 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Porta Potti > > John, > > I don't think I'd go around saying that too loud. > > I could be wrong, but I don't believe putting untreated human waste > in a > landfill is kosher. > > Rik > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John R. Butler <theoldcat(a)cox.net> > wrote: > >> I opted for the Herreschoff solution, substituting a hard rubber >> bucket >> from a Farm Supply store. An odor proof plastic liner takes care of >> the mess >> and can be sealed until at a dumpster. The bucket is also handy for >> wash >> jobs, etc. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> > > > > -- > 45 A.C.P. – Because shooting twice is silly. > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: (variations on a potti theme)
by Larry E Yake 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

>>"Reliance makes two types, a cheap $20 toilet seat lid and cover that sits on a standard 5 Gal. paint bucket, and a $40 "hassock" model...I'm betting the 5 Gal bucket is too tall to fit in the M15 well.." Neil, I found a 3 gallon bucket at my local hardware store with the same dimensions as the 5 gallon, except shorter. With the Reliance seat lid, it's a perfect fit in the M17 well. I had to heat up the seat with hot water to get it to snap on, but it's there to stay now. Larry Yake M17, CornDog

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Re: M_Boats: Advice Sought: Porta-Potti for '85 M15
by nebwest2＠aol.com 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

'Jo and I took some Pett bags along on last year's Cruise up in the Northwest. All we did was to line the Port-a-pottie with them. Best of both worlds. We try not to use the dang thing period, but the few times nature called away from dockside we used the Pett, then discarded at the first appropriate facility. The P-o-P never got anything in it's tank and we never had to deal with it...BUT..it was there and ready to go if we ran out of bags WHICH WE DID! hahaha DIDN"T WE GARY??!! Here's a hint....if you are on a cruise and find a new toy (toy?) that you really like...but are running out of...don't go around bragging about how great your new (toy) is before you pull into port ready to hike up to West Marine and buy some more. Otherwise when you stroll into the West Marine at Friday Harbor and say "Hey, do you have any Pett bags?" you'll wonder why the two clerks get a funny look on their face and say to each other "what is it with the PETT bags today?" "Mr. You are like the 6th person to come in here asking for them and we only carry two boxes!" hahaha or.....If You are gonna brag....be the first one into port!!!! HAHAHA ..........Later when we saw Gary he had a big smile on his face!!!! We all had a good laugh.......and the West Marine guys probably still have 6 boxes sitting on the shelves awaiting our return next year!!!! HAHAHA Sean, Jo, and yes, Bosun :-)

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Re: M_Boats: Porta Potti
by John R. Butler 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

I opted for the Herreschoff solution, substituting a hard rubber bucket from a Farm Supply store. An odor proof plastic liner takes care of the mess and can be sealed until at a dumpster. The bucket is also handy for wash jobs, etc.

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Re: M_Boats: (variations on a potti theme)
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

PS And to Sean's point, with the Pett tripod system you have nothing but the tripod if you are out of bags. With the hassock (or as Dauntless would have, a true PoP) at least in dire circumstances--out of bags--you would have a sealable container albeit with some unpleasant cleanup afterwards. Just carry plenty of extras and even a few Hefty bags as backup to the backup (sorry Jonathan Winters if you have to carry them out! Oh Sh_t now I'm really dating myself) I think we got all the straight "poop" on porta potties we're gonna need :-) Neil

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Re: M_Boats: (variations on a potti theme)
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

I guess there are a couple of choices for the "dry" system besides the Pett. Reliance makes two types, a cheap $20 toilet seat lid and cover that sits on a standard 5 Gal. paint bucket, and a $40 "hassock" model that actually has an inner pail and an inner cover (that holds a roll of tp) plus seat and outer cover. Reliance also makes a fold-to-go tripod model for about $30, but the Pett looks more durable. Point being, these could also use the Pett bag system and/or there are similar reliance companion water-free products such as the Bio-Gel and what Reliance calls "Double-Doodie". All will show up on a Google search. I'm not where my boat is at the moment but I'm betting the 5 Gal bucket is too tall to fit in the M15 well but the Hassock is 14' tall and probably will. Also Coleman makes a hassock-like product with the same tp roll holder. I think what it comes down to with the Hassock or the Pett is whether the tripod with the bag hanging down below or a set of concentric cylinders (with the bag contained within) would be better AND which would be more stable for--as someone put it--"finishing the job." Upon further thought I'm leaning toward the Hassock, using the Pett W.A.G. bags and save myself $40. Anyone out there have any experience with the Reliance products? And thanks again Rik for bringing the waterless solution to my attention. Definitely the way to go. Neil

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Re: M_Boats: Advice Sought: Porta-Potti for '85 M15
by Neil Dorf 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Joe, It's at http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi Neil -----Original Message----- From: Joe Murphy <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 4:06 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice Sought: Porta-Potti for '85 M15 What's the 'other' Monty bbs??? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf(a)surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice Sought: Porta-Potti for '85 M15 > Thanks again, all, for your poti-cular opinions. > > Also, Rik, I just realize that Bert Felton (flickasf) frequents the > 'other' Monty bbs at the trailersailor site, so he probably does not > have his antenna up here. He has been a good contributor of info > along with many others on both sites. > > I visit both boards now and then and it's easy to forget who is on > which. > > Not to reopen an old debate but another reason why personally I wish > we could all come together in one place... > > Looking forward to meeting all who will be in Havasu in February! > > Fair Winds, > [The entire original message is not included]

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Re: M_Boats: Advice Sought: Porta-Potti for '85 M15
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Thanks again, all, for your poti-cular opinions. Also, Rik, I just realize that Bert Felton (flickasf) frequents the 'other' Monty bbs at the trailersailor site, so he probably does not have his antenna up here. He has been a good contributor of info along with many others on both sites. I visit both boards now and then and it's easy to forget who is on which. Not to reopen an old debate but another reason why personally I wish we could all come together in one place... Looking forward to meeting all who will be in Havasu in February! Fair Winds, Neil

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Re: M_Boats: Advice Sought: Porta-Potti for '85 M15
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

I've visited the Pett website, seen the pics and video, considered all opinions. For my purposes--mostly day sailing, sometimes longer days, and occasional overnights--the Pett is the Bomb..seems to fit the bill perfectly. Most days, when I'm out on a local lake for maybe 3 hours, It will never get used, so I wouldn't expect to go through bags very quickly. Also nice 'n light to carry ashore for remote boat-in shore camping if there are no facilities. As for the trying out with a bucket and just the bags--that will flunk the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) test. I'm sold and plan to order one. Just waiting for an answer if someone knows if it will sit assembled (3 legs down) in the well in sole of the M15 and still be low-enough profile with the lid down for clearance under the plywood cover that supports the cushion above it. Looks like it will... Thank goodness for this forum for helping me avoid a -ahem- crappy $100 mistake Neil

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