May 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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M15 for sale in Nor Cal on Craigslist
by George Morrison 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

I already own a M15, so I can't use another. But this sure sounds like a good deal/quick sale! Plus it's very rare to see any M-Boats for sale! http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/1042037932.html George "M" M15 319 San Jose, CA

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Re: M_Boats: Fwd: research
by bownez＠juno.com 29 Oct '09

29 Oct '09

My Dear Jerry, I have been following this wonderful discussion regarding how to best spend your valuable time designing another M-Boat. All the suggestions are very good, but as we all know, sailboats are a compromise. Having sailed a 15, 17, and a 23, all have been pleasing. If I could add one feature to my older 1976 M17, it would be the wet locker. If I could suggest one improvement for the M23, it would be a more robust gooseneck. Raising the mast using the bridal jig distorts and twists the gooseneck rather badly. Mine is hanging in there, Theo had to replace his. I'm sure whatever you design, it will be a sweetheart of a looker and sailer. You have the touch. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the right business program for you and take your career to the next level. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTESUSrVjCI7Wqa7cvYXOf2Zj7…

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M10
by Fuh-Shing Pan 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

Someone out there must be interested in this: http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/1111004805.html Fuh-Shing Pan, M15 #120 "Panasea" _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mo…

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Sold my M17 looking for a M15
by Ken Wheeler 31 May '09

31 May '09

I sold my M17 # 306 today. So please welcome Paul from Eugene when he signs on next week. He will be interested in the San Juan trips and corresponding with other Montgomery owners. I know he will appreciate any help you can give. I am now actively looking for a nice M15 . I'm on the west coast but not adverse to a drive for a nice boat. If you have one for sale please email me at wesi(a)comcast.net. Ken from Santa Rosa

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the montgomery 15 formerly known as SCRED
by W David Scobie 30 May '09

30 May '09

M15 #288, once known as SCRED, has been sold. She now is a member of the Rockstroh family of Friday Harbor, WA, on San Juan Island, in the San Juan Islands. (An interesting 'quirk' of fate in that I purchased my new-to-me M17 SWEET PEA from a family living on an island ... and the family taking the helm of #288 is from an island.) i raise a glass to #288 and to many happy sails with her new family dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com

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Re: M_Boats: owners registry
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 29 May '09

29 May '09

That'd be me! and I took care of your hull #. Sean M23 "Dauntless" **************Discover the variety of Bisquick® mix. Get Recipes & Savings Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222831871x1201491818/aol?redir=htt… Frecipes.bisquick.bettycrocker.com%3FESRC%3D971)

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Re: M_Boats: owners registry
by W David Scobie 28 May '09

28 May '09

Sean Mulligan of M23 'Dauntless'. dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea (http://www.m17-375.webs.com) M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale, http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred) --- On Thu, 5/28/09, mrh219(a)yahoo.com <mrh219(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Who administers the Yahoo Montgomery Owners Registry?

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owners registry
by mrh219＠yahoo.com 28 May '09

28 May '09

Who administers the Yahoo Montgomery Owners Registry?

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Through-hull piece for VHF coax
by Gordon Gilbert 28 May '09

28 May '09

I'm preparing to go from a hand-held VHF to a hard-wired unit, and I'm contemplating a couple of ways to lead coax through the deck. Has anyone used the Cable Clams made by Blue Sea Systems? They allow you to put coax with a PL 259 connector through the deck and then apparently seal the cable tight. The benefit, it seems to me, would be using two less connectors, which might improve radio performance (plus make the installation simpler and perhaps less expensive). I'm just wondering how watertight they really are, especially after a few years of opening and closing to pass through the cable when setting up the boat. Otherwise, I would use one of those long threaded double-female connectors with two nuts (using two washers above and below deck) and a total of four PL 259 connectors. The PL 259 connector brings me to another question: Has anyone used the Shakespeare solderless, crimp-on connectors? Do they provide a solid connection? Thanks! Gordon M-17 "Sapphire" Milwaukee

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