November 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Re: M_Boats: racing my M23
by Larry E Yake 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

>So when is the next San Juan trip? Annual? Bi-annual? >Jeff Probably semi-annual. Larry

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M15 for sale in Nor Cal on Craigslist
by George Morrison 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

I already own a M15, so I can't use another. But this sure sounds like a good deal/quick sale! Plus it's very rare to see any M-Boats for sale! http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/1042037932.html George "M" M15 319 San Jose, CA

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laddder and stern pulpit into
by flickasf＠aol.com 01 Mar '10

01 Mar '10

1. The stern pulpit was custom made by Svendsen's Metal Shop in Alameda,CA. 2. I have had no flexing from my life line stanchions on either of my M 15s. The first M 15, Kokopelli was sailed in heavy weather for several years on San Francisco Bay. They do have stainless backing plates which are a mirror image to the stanchion bases. 3. I recommend the four step telescoping ladder from Windline. It makes it easier to get out of the water. You can order directly from the factory. It's the same one used on the Potter 19. The factory had the best price. 4. To install the pulpit and ladder I put in three four inch Becksen inspection ports, 2 aft and one on the starboard side beneath the forward leg of the pulpit. The stern pulpit was fairly easy and should be done first so you have more room to work. 5. I premade and drilled a backing plate for the ladder and drilled the holes in the stern as well. After treating the stern with penetrating epoxy, I fished a string through one of the holes in the stern and ran it through the backing plate in the cabin. I ran it through a washer and tied it. Then I simply pulled it to the stern. Once the first bolt was in place, the rest was fairly easy. Be sure to have extra nuts and washers. If anyone needs photos of the projects, send me your email and I will send them to you within a couple of weeks. Bert M 15, Zephyr

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Halyards and mast head sheaves on M17
by Bill Wickett 19 Jan '10

19 Jan '10

The wire section on my jib halyard is not long enough to reach to the deck at the stem fitting. When the jib is hauled down the top 2 hanks are still up on the forestay. The rope to wire splice is stopped at the masthead. I can get a new longer wire spliced on, or I was thinking about converting to all rope. However in looking at the masthead casting, there is not enough room for wider sheaves to handle rope. The casting only has a 3/4" slot where the sheaves are mounted. Has anyone done this conversion to rope? If so did you have to change the mast head to another casting? Where does Bob get the masts and fittings from? Dwyer or other? Thanks Bill Wickett M17

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hoisting M15
by jcmanfredi＠peoplepc.com 04 Dec '09

04 Dec '09

A couple questions from a new, used m15, owner in Yakima, Wa. 1. Has anyone successfully installed and used deck or toerail lifting eyes to lift your m15 with a hoist? I have read a few articles about lifting with shroud toe rail plates; I don't want to do that. I have used web hull slings with previous boats and don't want to do that. I'm thinking about one pad eye bolted through each side of the deck, with 1.5"x1.5"x12" stainless steel backing angle. Would locate 1.5" inside the teak toerail and about 4" rear of the shrouds. Would also use a balancing hoist line back to each cockpit cleat. 2. Does anyone know of a manufactured boat cover with cutouts for montgomery's standard bow and stern rails? thanks, john and candace manfredi

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M-15 for sale in Maryland, under $4000.
by kdocter 03 Dec '09

03 Dec '09

http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery15102.html

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Re: M_Boats: Broken cleat, M-15
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 01 Dec '09

01 Dec '09

Larry, I have an '85 M15 and while I'm not presently looking at my boat, I remember that the cleat has a flat top surface that makes it look different than the rounded types currently seen around and available from marine supply places. After Googling around I did find this one from a flag supply place, and it looks like it might be a close match but probably not exact. http://www.fredsflags.net/catalog.asp?prodid=272390&showprevnext=1 Hopefully somewhere you can find the genuine article ;-) Neil

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Re: M_Boats: Happy Thanksgiving
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 30 Nov '09

30 Nov '09

Thanx much Larry, and likewise to you and the group. We have much to be thankful for; in this life, in this country. I'm pleased to be involved with a group that understands appreciation. sal In a message dated 11/26/2009 9:02:47 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, leyake(a)juno.com writes: Happy Thanksgiving to all of you! My favorite holiday. This group has been a source of so much enjoyment over the past several years, I want to thank you all. I'm amazed when I think of all the friends I've made and the trips we've enjoyed together because of this list. Have a great day, and I look forward to meeting more of you at the big event at Lake Havusu. Larry Yake _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Thanksgiving
by Tom Jenkins 29 Nov '09

29 Nov '09

Well, added to the things that count most, I have a Montgomery sailboat with all the trimmings, and the possibility of joining other Monty owners for some good times. Hard to beat. Enjoy the day, all! Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla

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