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Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska
by David C. Patterson 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Danelle, best luck with your newly found M17. I am finding this forum very useful with my own new/old M17 (#393) which is on a trailer, and has a daunting list of needs, including better sails. Please write about your work. And don't hesitate to call Montgomery Boats. I did the other day and got a quick answer to questions, including one about three stringers I had found on the port hull (they were builder-installed stiffeners). Very helpful, as I feared my boat had been repaired at some point. By the way, my #2 daughter graduated from Ketchikan HS. I envy you the sailing waters you have! David Patterson, Boulder CO -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:16 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 61, Issue 26 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Intro from SE Alaska (Tim Diebert) 2. Re: Intro from SE Alaska (Howard Audsley) 3. Re: Victoria 18's? (JDavies104(a)aol.com) 4. Re: M-Boats: Intro from SE Alaska (John R. Butler) 5. Re: Intro from SE Alaska (Bill Lamica) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:04:32 -0700 From: "Tim Diebert" <tim(a)timtone.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <008001c89099$97b77d80$c7267880$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wow. What an interesting backround! Sounds like there could be a book in you..... Welcome to this place. You picked a nice design for your first small boat. Regardless of the work needed, they are fun and quite capable. I am sure there is the odd person around here that can help you with any advice or guidance in the repair department. Including the chap that made your boat. Have fun. Tim Diebert M17 Just a couple of miles south of you on the 49th. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Danelle Landis Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:10 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska Hi, Danelle Landis here, I've been enjoying learning from the archives - and I have a *lot* to learn! I just bought an M17 here in Ketchikan, Alaska that of course, needs a lot of attention. It is pretty sound mostly, but needs what looks to be the typical repairs and rehabs that the older (I think it must be between 1981 and 1987). It's got the notorious rusted/stuck CB, and the boat has been sitting in saltwater, uncovered, in a marina for the last year and a half, probably longer. We need to haul it asap, but it came with no trailer. We'll probably have to buy one and have it barged up from Seattle. The sails are in great condition - even a spinnaker! Poor thing hasn't been really valued highly - she has no name, and I just realized today that the beat up old tiller is actually an old axe handle, among other pending projects. I started sailing with my family when I was about 7, on a Blanchard 26 on Coeur d'Alene lake in ID. My dad totally caught the bug and decided he wanted to retire at age 30, and move onto a sailboat. We did it, on the Islander 30 we had by that time, all five of us - us kids were 4, 10 and 14. We launched the boat at Lewiston, ID and sailed through the locks and dams in the Snake, Columbia rivers, the up the WA coast to Seattle where my parents promptly bought a Cal Cruising 36. It seemed HUGE. Eventually, we bought a 50' custom wierdly-designed aluminum hard-chined gaff-rigged sailboat we lived on for the next five years, and sailed up here to Alaska - our first dream destination. From there, the family all moved off and my dad kept on sailing, living aboard in Mexico, Hawaii, Sitka...for another fifteen years. He and I sailed the aluminum boat (since rehabbed into a regular sloop) from Hawaii to Seattle in 1988. Anyway, I've missed sailing all these years, and when this little M17 became available for only $2,500, I had to snap it up! I've never sailed on such a small boat before, but from what I've read so far, they sound capable of taking hard weather (we have plenty here), but are fun to sail too. The sailing part is second nature to me, the repairs - well, I'll need a lot of advice and help from my husband, who is great at those things, fortunately. I want to do most of it myself though. Having my own sailboat has been a dream of mine since I was a teenager pouring over "Sailpower" on my cozy bunk. My other hobbies - I'm a stay at home mom of three, and I have been a K9 Search and Rescue handler for twelve years. ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 7:15 PM ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:02:08 -0500 From: Howard Audsley <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <bcbdfffb60a76412a8c56323c00736f6(a)tranquility.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Welcome Danelle: Once you start your refit, when you run into questions, just ask. If the boat needs it, somebody on this list has done it. Most boats will have the same issues. It's all been figured out. Some of it takes some sweat and work, but can be done by mere mortals. That our boats still float and sail should all the proof you need to keep you going. Compared to raising kids, this is a piece of cake! Howard On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Danelle Landis wrote: > Hi, > > Danelle Landis here, I've been enjoying learning from the archives - > and I have a *lot* to learn! > > > I just bought an M17 here in Ketchikan, Alaska that of course, needs a > lot of attention. It is pretty sound mostly, but needs what looks to > be the typical repairs and rehabs that the older (I think it must be > between 1981 and 1987). It's got the notorious rusted/stuck CB, and > the boat has been sitting in saltwater, uncovered, in a marina for the > last year and a half, probably longer. We need to haul it asap, but > it came with no trailer. We'll probably have to buy one and have it > barged up from Seattle. The sails are in great condition - even a > spinnaker! Poor thing hasn't been really valued highly - she has no > name, and I just realized today that the beat up old tiller is > actually an old axe handle, among other pending projects. > > > I started sailing with my family when I was about 7, on a Blanchard 26 > on Coeur d'Alene lake in ID. My dad totally caught the bug and > decided he wanted to retire at age 30, and move onto a sailboat. We > did it, on the Islander 30 we had by that time, all five of us - us > kids were 4, 10 and 14. We launched the boat at Lewiston, ID and > sailed through the locks and dams in the Snake, Columbia rivers, the > up the WA coast to Seattle where my parents promptly bought a Cal > Cruising 36. It seemed HUGE. Eventually, we bought a 50' custom > wierdly-designed aluminum hard-chined gaff-rigged sailboat we lived on > for the next five years, and sailed up here to Alaska - our first > dream destination. From there, the family all moved off and my dad > kept on sailing, living aboard in Mexico, Hawaii, Sitka...for another > fifteen years. He and I sailed the aluminum boat (since rehabbed into > a regular sloop) from Hawaii to Seattle in 1988. > > > Anyway, I've missed sailing all these years, and when this little M17 > became available for only $2,500, I had to snap it up! I've never > sailed on such a small boat before, but from what I've read so far, > they sound capable of taking hard weather (we have plenty here), but > are fun to sail too. The sailing part is second nature to me, the > repairs - well, I'll need a lot of advice and help from my husband, > who is great at those things, fortunately. I want to do most of it > myself though. Having my own sailboat has been a dream of mine since > I was a teenager pouring over "Sailpower" on my cozy bunk. > > > My other hobbies - I'm a stay at home mom of three, and I have been a > K9 Search and Rescue handler for twelve years. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _____________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:38:15 EDT From: JDavies104(a)aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Victoria 18's? To: Thomas(a)TEHowe.com, montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <c6c.240fb928.351e40b7(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The discussion of Victoria 18s led me to a Victoria website (I had never heard of the Victoria before), and among other characteristics it mentioned that although the V-18 is only around 12' 6" at the waterline when upright, it lengthened to somewhere around 17' when heeled at 18 degrees, her best angle for performance, giving a hull speed of around 6 kt. This led me to wonder, has anyone figured out a best angle of heel for the M-17? Rick ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15& ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:13:17 -0500 From: "John R. Butler" <theoldcat(a)cox.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-Boats: Intro from SE Alaska To: Montgomery Boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <6F5972E2-BE17-42D2-AFFC-1E364BF4BEBB(a)cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Welcome aboard, Danelle, and I wish you and your family wonderful cruising in the Great Southeast. We lived on Annette Island, just SW of you, '69 to '71 where I was a SAR pilot and XO of the CG's Air Station, now at Sitka. My wife does not like sailing when it gets fun, so we cruised extensively as far north as Skagway in a pre-WWII 30' Matthews twin screw sedan cruiser (also barged up from Seattle). Sold it to a local character in Ketch when we transferred to New Orleans, sure she is long scrapped now. Our shakedown cruise was the Behm Canal, ran out of gas just short of the CG Station, they towed us in and laughed a LOT at the fly-boy! I am on my second M15, never been close to a M17, but I can guess that she will serve you most faithfully. Enjoy the many gunkholes in the Beautiful Southeast for overnight cruises, or 30-day cruises like we did! I, like everyone else here, will look forward to your upgrading and eventual sailing and cruising stories. John R. Butler Villa 401, The Arbors 2100 West New Hope Road ROGERS AR 72758-5626 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:15:38 -0700 From: "Bill Lamica" <billamicasr(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <3018b6c40803281215g2831d75by622f0e2d496e2af(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Danelle, Welcome! Regarding the Centerboard... If you have not found the MSOG Photo Site yet, allow me to invite you to take a look at several examples of centerboard repairs on the M17, by various folks here on the forum. Go to: http://www.msogphotosite.com/M17MM.html Lots of other information on the M-boats on the site as well. When you get to the Maintenance page, just hit the return to home button in the upper left corner to go to the home page for the index. When you do the repairs on your new M17, I encourage you to take the time to photograph and document, what you have gone through, for the benefit of others. Take the photos at 1024X768 or larger and when you are ready, go to the contact page on the Photo Site and E-mail or snail mail the photos to me and I'll build a page about those fixes. Welcome and enjoy your new Montgomery, Bill www.MSOGPhotoSite.com On 3/27/08, Danelle Landis <anniesark9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave, I knew there had to be a way to find the year, I just hadn't gotten that far in my research yet. I've been spending a lot of time reading about getting the CB out. Now I have an excuse to run to the boat tomorrow, again. > > What does "Scred" mean? > > Danelle > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:20:00 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska > > welcome to the M-boats danelle! > > you can quickly figure your 17's year by looking at this link which describes the hull number - > > http://msog.org/specs/hin17.cfm > > > dave scobie > M15 #288 - Scred (yes, i finally named the boat) > > > Danelle Landis <anniesark9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Danelle Landis here, I've been enjoying learning from the archives - and I have a *lot* to learn! > > > I just bought an M17 here in Ketchikan, Alaska that of course, needs a lot of attention. It is pretty sound mostly, but needs what looks to be the typical repairs and rehabs that the older (I think it must be between 1981 and 1987). It's got the notorious rusted/stuck CB, and the boat has been sitting in saltwater, uncovered, in a marina for the last year and a half, probably longer. We need to haul it asap, but it came with no trailer. We'll probably have to buy one and have it barged up from Seattle. The sails are in great condition - even a spinnaker! Poor thing hasn't been really valued highly - she has no name, and I just realized today that the beat up old tiller is actually an old axe handle, among other pending projects. > > > I started sailing with my family when I was about 7, on a Blanchard 26 on Coeur d'Alene lake in ID. My dad totally caught the bug and decided he wanted to retire at age 30, and move onto a sailboat. We did it, on the Islander 30 we had by that time, all five of us - us kids were 4, 10 and 14. We launched the boat at Lewiston, ID and sailed through the locks and dams in the Snake, Columbia rivers, the up the WA coast to Seattle where my parents promptly bought a Cal Cruising 36. It seemed HUGE. Eventually, we bought a 50' custom wierdly-designed aluminum hard-chined gaff-rigged sailboat we lived on for the next five years, and sailed up here to Alaska - our first dream destination. From there, the family all moved off and my dad kept on sailing, living aboard in Mexico, Hawaii, Sitka...for another fifteen years. He and I sailed the aluminum boat (since rehabbed into a regular sloop) from Hawaii to Seattle in 1988. > > > Anyway, I've missed sailing all these years, and when this little M17 became available for only $2,500, I had to snap it up! I've never sailed on such a small boat before, but from what I've read so far, they sound capable of taking hard weather (we have plenty here), but are fun to sail too. The sailing part is second nature to me, the repairs - well, I'll need a lot of advice and help from my husband, who is great at those things, fortunately. I want to do most of it myself though. Having my own sailboat has been a dream of mine since I was a teenager pouring over "Sailpower" on my cozy bunk. > > > My other hobbies - I'm a stay at home mom of three, and I have been a K9 Search and Rescue handler for twelve years. > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska
by Danelle Landis 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Thanks Dave, I knew there had to be a way to find the year, I just hadn't gotten that far in my research yet. I've been spending a lot of time reading about getting the CB out. Now I have an excuse to run to the boat tomorrow, again. What does "Scred" mean? Danelle ----- Original Message ---- From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:20:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intro from SE Alaska welcome to the M-boats danelle! you can quickly figure your 17's year by looking at this link which describes the hull number - http://msog.org/specs/hin17.cfm dave scobie M15 #288 - Scred (yes, i finally named the boat) Danelle Landis <anniesark9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hi, Danelle Landis here, I've been enjoying learning from the archives - and I have a *lot* to learn! I just bought an M17 here in Ketchikan, Alaska that of course, needs a lot of attention. It is pretty sound mostly, but needs what looks to be the typical repairs and rehabs that the older (I think it must be between 1981 and 1987). It's got the notorious rusted/stuck CB, and the boat has been sitting in saltwater, uncovered, in a marina for the last year and a half, probably longer. We need to haul it asap, but it came with no trailer. We'll probably have to buy one and have it barged up from Seattle. The sails are in great condition - even a spinnaker! Poor thing hasn't been really valued highly - she has no name, and I just realized today that the beat up old tiller is actually an old axe handle, among other pending projects. I started sailing with my family when I was about 7, on a Blanchard 26 on Coeur d'Alene lake in ID. My dad totally caught the bug and decided he wanted to retire at age 30, and move onto a sailboat. We did it, on the Islander 30 we had by that time, all five of us - us kids were 4, 10 and 14. We launched the boat at Lewiston, ID and sailed through the locks and dams in the Snake, Columbia rivers, the up the WA coast to Seattle where my parents promptly bought a Cal Cruising 36. It seemed HUGE. Eventually, we bought a 50' custom wierdly-designed aluminum hard-chined gaff-rigged sailboat we lived on for the next five years, and sailed up here to Alaska - our first dream destination. From there, the family all moved off and my dad kept on sailing, living aboard in Mexico, Hawaii, Sitka...for another fifteen years. He and I sailed the aluminum boat (since rehabbed into a regular sloop) from Hawaii to Seattle in 1988. Anyway, I've missed sailing all these years, and when this little M17 became available for only $2,500, I had to snap it up! I've never sailed on such a small boat before, but from what I've read so far, they sound capable of taking hard weather (we have plenty here), but are fun to sail too. The sailing part is second nature to me, the repairs - well, I'll need a lot of advice and help from my husband, who is great at those things, fortunately. I want to do most of it myself though. Having my own sailboat has been a dream of mine since I was a teenager pouring over "Sailpower" on my cozy bunk. My other hobbies - I'm a stay at home mom of three, and I have been a K9 Search and Rescue handler for twelve years. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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Re: M_Boats: M-Boats: Intro from SE Alaska
by John R. Butler 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Welcome aboard, Danelle, and I wish you and your family wonderful cruising in the Great Southeast. We lived on Annette Island, just SW of you, '69 to '71 where I was a SAR pilot and XO of the CG's Air Station, now at Sitka. My wife does not like sailing when it gets fun, so we cruised extensively as far north as Skagway in a pre-WWII 30' Matthews twin screw sedan cruiser (also barged up from Seattle). Sold it to a local character in Ketch when we transferred to New Orleans, sure she is long scrapped now. Our shakedown cruise was the Behm Canal, ran out of gas just short of the CG Station, they towed us in and laughed a LOT at the fly-boy! I am on my second M15, never been close to a M17, but I can guess that she will serve you most faithfully. Enjoy the many gunkholes in the Beautiful Southeast for overnight cruises, or 30-day cruises like we did! I, like everyone else here, will look forward to your upgrading and eventual sailing and cruising stories. John R. Butler Villa 401, The Arbors 2100 West New Hope Road ROGERS AR 72758-5626

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Re: M_Boats: Victoria 18's?
by JDavies104＠aol.com 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

The discussion of Victoria 18s led me to a Victoria website (I had never heard of the Victoria before), and among other characteristics it mentioned that although the V-18 is only around 12' 6" at the waterline when upright, it lengthened to somewhere around 17' when heeled at 18 degrees, her best angle for performance, giving a hull speed of around 6 kt. This led me to wonder, has anyone figured out a best angle of heel for the M-17? Rick ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15& ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

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Sailing with a Centerboard up?
by kdocter＠bellsouth.net 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

Does anyone have any idea what sailing with a CB up would do to your sailing experience? We were hoping to take "Vaya Con Dios" out for it's maiden voyage (in 25 plus years) next weekend. I just discovered that Bob (Montgomery Boats) does not take credit cards. I was forced to mail him a check and will have to wait longer than I had planned for my new Cb to arrive. So my question is, how would the M-15 sail without it? Can I still go if the winds are light? Kendall Docter M-15 #164 New Name! "Vaya Con Dios" Spanish for "Go with God"

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Victoria 18's?
by Rodney Holland 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

I might be certifiable for this but even having just put our recently purchased Montgomery 17 in the water for the fist time, I stumbled across something interesting this morning. I saw (only pictures at this point)of a Victoria 18 and trailer that can be bought for $750.00 If the hull is sound and the trailer usable this seems like an absolute steal, although I don't know anything about the boats. I like the size of the cockpit, and the lines, but don't think I would want a fixed keel for the type sailing we'll do even if it's Shoal Draft. I love buying older boats that I can do "fixer upper" things to as long as the needs don't push my abilities too far. The first sailboat I did this with after first starting with rowboats and dinghys was a Montgomery 12! If this is one of those "projects in waiting" shouldn't a boat like this be worth $2-3K in most places if put into decent shape? Do any of you know about the quality of construction on these boats? I realize you can design a "salty looking hull" that is actually a cheap piece of plastic(I'll refrain from naming some), and I'm wondering where these sit on the spectrum of design and construction reputation? Rodney Holland Texas Doghouse

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Chart viewer
by JDavies104＠aol.com 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

All, I just found a neat website: http://www.oceangrafix.com/o.g/index.html which allows you to look at any chart in the NOAA index. It has a chart viewer window with scroll and zoom controls that let you see the chart in high resolution at any zoom level. Unfortunately, you can't print from the viewer. I have been using it together with a Garmin 72 which shows only buoys and markers, but not shorelines, depths, or landmarks. The chart relates the Garmin markers to the actual environment and makes it easy to find the right markers to set up waypoints, measure distances and bearings, etc. Lots of fun. Rick ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom0…)

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Spreaders
by Rodney Holland 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

I stepped the mast for the first time yesterday on Texas Doghouse and I have a couple of questions. I think I have it up properly, and I know that the tension on the shrouds and stays are in a reasonably close range to where needed(I'll tweak before sailing), but the spreaders seem to angle aft and slightly up, which I don't recall seeing on a boat before. I've looked for picture at the website but can't seem to find anything that shows. The way the spreaders are connected, and the way they can only partially rotate seems to indicate that were they to be positioned any other way, the shrouds would have never reached their connections on the cabin side. Also. I know the uppers need to be tightened more than the lowers, but in what order do tey attach? I currenly hace them with the upper in the bottom of the two holes and the lower in the top, but wanted to make sure that is correct. Rodney Holland rodh(a)earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

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Montgomery handrails
by IdaSailor Marine 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

Rodney, Jerry, we build a lot of handrails in both teak and no-maintenance hdpe along with sliding hatch tracks, etc. For the handrails, just measure your center to center distance (where they attach to the deck) and let me know how many loops you want. The "standard" handrails used by most production boat builders were around 10.5" centers X whatever number of loops they needed. The end pads are a little longer than the center pads. Also, we've got our new kick up rudder available as complete assemblies available for both M15 and M17. Fair winds, -Joel Joel Santarone General Manager IdaSailor Marine Inc. www.idasailor.com 866-400-2204 toll free 208-375-2204 shop sailboats(a)idasailor.com > From: "jerry" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: New teak for Monty 17? > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <0A6262B861ED4A798B6A317BC52B4992@jerrym> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I vforgot- you can get new handrails from H&L Marine in S CA. > > Jerry > jerrymontgomery.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jerry" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: <rodh(a)earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: New teak for Monty 17? > > >> Rodney- Not only are the wood parts not the same from boat-to-boat but we >> made a change in 81 and they are totally different after that. I'd > suggest >> that you take off the parts and take them to a cabinet shop and have them >> duplicated. You can match up the screw holes by holding the new peice in >> place, running a drill in one of the end holes, running in a screw fro9m > the >> bottom, doing the other end the same, then drilling the rest of the >> holes. >> Take the end screw out, dust everything off, bed it (polyurethane- NOT >> silicone) and then run in all the screws. In other words, you use the > screw >> holes in the deck as the pilots. >> >> >> Jerry >> jerrymontgomery.org >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rodney Holland" <rodh(a)earthlink.net> >> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:09 PM >> Subject: M_Boats: New teak for Monty 17? >> >> >> > Do any of you owners know whether it is possible to order new exterior >> teak replacement pieces for a 1977 17 from Montgomery boats? Would these >> pieces be standard enough year to year that I could be confident they > would >> fit the same screw holes, etc? I'm cursed with the love of properly cared >> for and varnished bright work and want to have that on our new boat(named > it >> Texas Doghouse, maybe I'll share that story one evening with you). The > teak >> that is there is in really bad shape, and to properly do the hand rails, >> they will have to be sanded down so much that I don't think they could be >> trusted for their original purpose. They are already way too thin and >> need >> probably an eighth of an inch of sanding to get them smooth in some > places. >> > >> > Again, I don't know how standard these things are, but mine has the > rails, >> the companionway hatches, the pieces on each side and bottom of the >> companionway opening, and there 3 or 4 strips along the top of the >> sliding >> hatch that would dress things up nicely if replaced. I think that's it. >> > >> > Anyone think I can get this done? >> > >> > >> > >> > Rodney Holland >> > rodh(a)earthlink.net >> > EarthLink Revolves Around You.

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newbie
by Vincent G. Gallagher 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

Hey everyone---I am ready to get my M-15 but I read an older post that said that someone waited a year to get theirs? Does anyone know what the average time to get a new M-15 is? Is there anyway to find out from those who have recently received theirs? It's important because I have a special summer opportunity (May through July) and if I can't get my M-15 ordered and received in a month, I may have to look closer to home (South Florida) to find something. Any input would be REALLY helpful on this issue. -- Vincent G. Gallagher, M.A. St. Thomas University School of Law Class of 2009

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