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by Tom Jenkins 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

Hello members: I bought M17 hull number 626 (2004) in late winter, and still need more time to bring it back to "new" before taking it out. I think there is a picture of the finished boat on Bob Eeg's website (taken at the factory in '04, with tanbark sails). Now it has a roller-furling jib, and I bought an Idasailor kickup rudder to try it out. The complete electrical system might have been unnecessary for my purposes, but it is pretty slick. I live in June Lake, which is high up in the eastern Sierra Nevada of California, and I want to sail in the local lakes to start, but I have designs on some Colorado River lakes (Powell, Mead, Havasu), Puget Sound, the Texas and Florida gulf coasts, and who knows what other great American waters. I would also like to return to Bahia Magdelena and other localities in Baja California and along the Mexican mainland. I have had a Nor'Sea 27 forever, but I wanted something more agile to hit small lakes than the 27, but more capable than my venerable gaff-rigged WW Potter. I certainly look forward to interacting with the group. Tom Jenkins Scintilla #626

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My M15 centerboard pin almost fell out!
by Donglai Gong 24 Aug '07

24 Aug '07

Hello all, I took my M15 "Shaolin" out for first sail of the season in the Sandy Hook bay area (by NJ). We had a great time on the water and did some beach hopping. I encountered two major issues. 1) My Honda 2hp is burning oil and start to smoke badly when I ramp up the RPM. We had to shut it off to let it cool before turning it back on again. It worked fine afterwards in speed just above idle, we cruised at 2 knots or so with the motor all afternoon. Any ideas on what could be causing the oil burn? Oil also leaks out of the exhaust pipe if I ramp up the engine. 2) My centerboard pin almost fell out. After I towed the boat out of the water, I saw that the centerboard pin is stuck out way on one side. I could push it mostly back in with just hand force. I don't want is to sail along and have my centerboard fall out on me next time we go out. I'd appreciate any idea or suggestions on these two problems. Thanks! Donglai "Shaolin" M15 #612

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Re: Speed sensor location
by John R. Butler 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

I just installed a cheap little depth sounder (Bottom Line Tournament 1101) on REJOYCE! which works fine, but the speed accessory seems to read much too slow. Can anyone please advise me the best place for a "paddlewheel" sensor? I would like it close to the transom so I can lean overboard and clear it when it gets fouled, as I know from experience they are prone to do. but: centerline? As far outboard as possible? Or where? .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - Sailing again. Praise the Lord!

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mainsail trim
by Arnold Sharpe 02 Aug '07

02 Aug '07

Can anyone out there in Montgomery land give me some opinion on the use of a "Boom Kicker" which came with the M-17 I recently purchased used (a 1977 model) I am new to my new M-17 but have several years sailing experience in larger sailboats (we had a Choey Lee Frisco Flyer, a Mariner 31 and a S &S 24 ft sloop). In addition to the "Boom Kicker" the boat has a vang but it mounts on the boom within a foot or so of the mainsheet.... the boom has no topping lift. We have been out sailing several times now under varying wind conditions (5 to 20 knots) and directions (reaching, running) and I do not see any advantages over a simple topping lift but I may be missing something. It seems to me that the vang serves little purpose as it attaches so close to the main sheet. The benefit of all that Montgomery experience out there would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards...Arnold Sharpe M-17 "LITTLE BREEZE"

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Re: M_Boats: Havasu Az sail this winter
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

That really was POOR prep on my part - no spare bedding etc. Live and learn. Thanks again for the help. GO ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Havasu Az sail this winter
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

Gary, I think your judgement was spot on! I'll still never know how you didn't turn into a popsicle! hahaha We'll always have a spare blanket for you! S ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Re: M_Boats: Havasu Az sail this winter
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 29 Jul '07

29 Jul '07

Sean, I thought I was exercising "good judgment" by staying off the roads that night - the Camping Thing was not really an attraction - I did get home later that morning to defrost/thaw out. LOL or I should say Chattering Out Loud! PS thanks big time for the sweatshirt and blanket and the lee of your boat!!!! a real lifesaver it was. Winter in Havasu is a gas - all that Sean says and more - just stay out of the water. Some of my fondest road trips to race are of Havasu racing in the winter 75/76? and camping out at the point eating good chocolate chip cookies courtesy of Melanie Ball playing music and singing round the campfire! Great memeories and sometimes big breeze. I am in for a winterfest. (if the appendages are up to speed, hell even if they aren't we can fake it!) Team Geezer Racing.............Old and in the Way. GO M-17 # 316a _Click here: 2007 TRANSPACIFIC YACHT RACE Los Angeles to Honolulu Homepage_ (http://www.transpacificyc.org/) then go to "Daily Arrivals" then down to "July 26th" then to "Narrow Escape" Remember AL Lehman Jr at the Birthday Regatta? Here are he and his father finishing on "Narrow Escape" notice the watercraft registration! ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Havasu Az sail this winter
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

Dorothy, Eldor, and anyone else, We'd love to have you come see us and sail in January or any winter month for that matter. We keep Dauntless in the water here in Havasu from October thru May. Even though it's the desert, it can still be kinda cool, but we don't mind. The lake is all ours as the fair weather crowd is long gone and the winter winds often grace us with their presence. Can't guarantee anything but we usually don't go too long between good sailing days. Of course, we've all been spoiled by the Washington guys, so now we'll never be satisfied again! That invite goes for any other Monty crews as well. Maybe if we start planning something we can get some other folks to come. Last year we got a few Montys together in Phoenix for the Arizona Yacht Club's Birthday Regatta on Lake Pleasant. Uh...well...I have to tell you that it was the coldest I have ever been on the boat. Overnight lows were in the 20's! and we were racing in 45 degrees in the morning...BUT that's better than the frozen water in other areas...and it was a record setting cold snap, not the norm. Heck, there was even one guy that borrowed a blanket and spent the night in the cab of his Toyota.........(Gary O are you out there??!! :-) On the second night his crew , our own Jerry Montgomery himself, knocked some sense into him and they drove down into town and slept in warm beds!) Worse case scenario here in Havasu is that you sail to a hotel, slip the boat in their docks and get a waterfront room! Now that's pampered sailing! Now if you really want some good sailing, albeit a bit cold, Lake Mead would be the place for us to go. That is as long as the water is high enough to use the ramps. Even at 50% capacity, Lake mead is absolutely HUGE. It is known for big wind and big waves (for a lake anyway). There is a group of Macgregors that go there every year for the annual Mead Madness trip. It can get pretty cold up there at night ,though and it's pretty remote. If there are folks out there who are serious about a winter trip down here to sail, let me know and we'll try to put something together. Maybe we could set up a sailing Poker Run or something with a marina/and or hotel stay at each end of the lake (about 20 mile sail). Sean ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Re: M_Boats: Thanks San Juan'ers
by Eeeisen＠aol.com 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

We want to do it again! But I guess we'll just have to do Havasu in January unless they move the San Juan's closer to Texas. See you then. Eldor and Dorothy M-17 Motu iti fixed keel ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Thanks San Juan'ers
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

Just got our photo CD compilation of everyone's photos from the San Juan Rendezvous. Wow. There are some fantastic shots in there. I have a lot to be learned about photography compared to the rest of you guys! Big thanks to Randy Graves for putting everyone's pics together. Larry......are you SURE you can't go again next year????? ;-) Sean and Jo M23 Dauntless ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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