January 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

North Channel Charts
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Hello Rick and group, For the North Channel cruise launching from Spanish Marina, I ordered Canadian charts C2207 and C2257 from Bluewater Books and Charts. They have two offices, phone # 800-942-2583, and are on the web. I also purchased the "Ports" cruising guide to Georgian Bay and the North Channel. Its loaded with information, checklists, and tips. Great info. Stay warm all. Bones

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boat crazy
by Sailfan1 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Thought about it but I'm sure my gal would kill me in my sleep. I already have two trailer boats in my garage (one's a ski boat and the other's the Monty), plus an El Toro and a Zodiac. Women simply don't understand the boat disease... lol... If I want a 17' I have to sell the 15'... so I have some decisions to make. I've listed the 15' but if it doesn't sell no worries and I might just keep it regardless, it's in too nice a shape anyway. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Smith <openboatt(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:53:13 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Re: Harken Windward Sheeting Toyed around with the idea of changing my M15's main sheet arrangement, but came to the conclusion the OEM approach worked the best. Sailed mostly single hand anyway, so passenger injury was seldom an issue. By all means, buy an M17 and keep the M15. tjs On 1/16/07, Sailfan1 <sailfan1(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > John - > > > Anyone else make any modifications to the main-sheet arrangement which > work better than original set up? > > Ashley > M15 #478 > Morgan Hill, CA > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news

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Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
by Sailfan1 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

George -- Other than a portable Honda Generator of course, your options would be mostly limited to solar. I have a solar trickle charger (can't recall amps) which works for keeping bats topped up but you'd need to calculate your demand vs. the input to determine practicality for the expected evening time use. One additional idea is an outboard motor with battery charger capability. There are some models available on the market which are the right size for a 17'. If I upgrade to a 17' I will look seriously into this approach. Ashley M15 - #478 Morgan Hill, CA ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Johnson <jorge1(a)cabnet.net> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:47:31 PM Subject: M_Boats: (no subject) Hi, I just recently bought a Montgomery 17 and towed her home in east central Texas. Usually we have year round sailing here (not to rub it in) but are currently having an ice storm that makes most Texans shake their heads in disbelief. Quite frustrating to a new boat owner as well !!!!!! But milder weather won't be too far away. Plenty of time to surf the net with a hot cup of coffee by my side, looking for upgrades and modifications to be made to the boat. One question I have is about power for accessories- I imagine there are quite a few Montgomery's that have a battery for VHF, lights, accessories and all. This 17 does. A heavy deep cycle battery at that. I was wondering, how do you monitor the state of charge in the battery? My current mode will be to fully charge it at home, then hope to made due on the first multi-day camping trip. Don't intend to run much stuff off of it but it would be nice to have a anchoring light at night, lights to read by, hang some X-mas lights for a festive evening, etc, but don't want to unexpectedly discharge the battery, be able to ration for the weekend. Also, would like to get some sort of solar panel to recharge during the day. Any thoughts or experience with this? Stay warm! George J. Caldwell TX Montgomery 17 #600 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Harken Windward Sheeting
by Sailfan1 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

John - Because the 15 uses the rope traveler (not sure what the technical name for this kind of traveler is), the item they are discussing will not be applicable. And unless you install a track type traveler in the cockpit (as one boat did - and I think he eventually removed this mod) you won't have the capability. Speaking of main-sheets (sort of), my bone of contention with the 15's set up is having the lead operate directly in front of the companion way. It's problematic for the crew as you tend to cut their knee's when operating the main-sheet. I had looked at several options for re-rigging the main-sheet up to and including the way the WWP19 is set up. Note I said 19'... But the issue that might come into play with the 19's set up on a little Montgomery 15, is that the weather side of the sheet arrangement would tend to cut someones head off as it passes over the cockpit on its way to the boom. I eventually decided that a block and becket at the traveler end would be sufficient but I'd be sure to use the particular Harken model line which is made of all nylon I think. Some sort of strong plastic. That way it's less likely to damage the gel-coat in the cockpit when going slack such as in an accidental jibe, etc. In any event I am pondering selling my 15' due to size constraint with my growing family although I must say, it's the second time I've attempted to do it and it's the second time I am already again apprehensive to sell her. Although I think a 17' is a better boat for us I can't get over how handy the 15 is and I can't convince myself to sell the 15'. I still may make the main-sheet conversion after all. Anyone else make any modifications to the main-sheet arrangement which work better than original set up? Ashley M15 #478 Morgan Hill, CA ----- Original Message ---- From: John Butler <theoldcat(a)cox.net> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:56:00 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: Harken Windward Sheeting Two questions: (1) would it be appropriate for an M15? (2) where would I go to buy one? John Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net M15 "Rejoyce" _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.

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Masthead replacement part
by Jay Townley 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

First, I didn't "drop" the mast! I took it down to inspect it! I talked with Bob Eng and he will be getting replacement parts in about two weeks. Problem solved!

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AYC Birthday Regatta
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Steve, I just caught your post from the other day about not being able to make the AYC Regatta. Sorry you weren't able to make it. It would have been fun to hook up with ya and have 4 Montys instead of three, but, I know how it can be when you don't feel so hot and the weather...well, we already covered that! If you had been out there and were already not feeling good it probably wouldn't have been a good thing. We'll catch ya next time for sure. Hope your feeling better ASAP. Sean and Jo M23 Dauntless

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Re: Harken Windward Sheeting
by John Butler 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Two questions: (1) would it be appropriate for an M15? (2) where would I go to buy one? John Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net M15 "Rejoyce"

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OK OK We get the message!!!!!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

OK all you cold country sailors...We GET THE MESSAGE!! you know the "Stop bragging about all your winter Arinzona sailing" message. So will you PLEASE take your cold air back up there where it belongs!!!! We just spent last weekend at the Arizona Yacht Club's B-day Regatta in Phoenix, AZ. Over 90 boats participated and we had a great time....BUT, we were staying on the boat and you guys sent down the COOOOOOLD. Overnight lows were record breaking 25 degrees! Now I know you guys are laughing about what whimps we are ...but c'mon! We're not used to that! Up till the day befoer the regatta overnight lows were the normal 40-50 degrees. Kudos to my wife Jo who stuck out the weekend with me. We were able to get the inside of the Monty up to around 60-65 with our ZODI heater (which we now are absolutely in love with). We used the Zodi all night long along with a CO monitor just to be on the safe side. The Zodi recirculates cabin air through a heat exchanger that is over a propane burner outside of the cabin. The cabin air never mixes with the air involved in the combustion process. YOU STILL MUST BE VERY CAREFUL THOUGH, of course. One night the wind turned around and blew over the transom into the cockpit and apparently pushed the exhaust from the burner (which was in the cockpit) up against the hatch boards. The CO monitor went into alarm. After shutting down the burner and flushing the cabin with fresh COLD air, I turned the boat around and fired her up again. Never had another problem. Just goes to show though that you have to be VERY careful. We were very conscious of and paid attention for any signs of CO poisoning. Neither of us suffered any symptoms of CO poisoning (headache, nausea, etc.) but had we not had the CO monitor ($15 at Ace) might have been a different story. Still bundled up down here! Top news stories are all the busting frozen pipes in all the communities. We don't insulate them down here cause it "never" freezes. hahaha famous last words! Great sailing though and we had a great time. If you ever get the Jan itch to sail, the AYC in Phoenix puts on a great event. Boats came from as far away as Missisipi and Canada! Plan on coming down next year! And, as an added bonus...We got to meet, hang out, and sail with Jerry Montgomery himself. A true gentleman. He was sailing with my friend Gary O. who finally got to put all the work he's done to his 17 (it's name is LB/GF, I'll let Gary tell you what it means!) to work. Over the next few days I'll get our pics together and put them up on the Havasumontogmerys.funtigo.com website. On another note, I saw a post on the Trailersailor forum from Todd Mills. He's having some computer probs and can't get into the MSOG right now until he fixes the problem, but he's got some exciting news to share when he gets back online! Freezing in AZ!!! SEND WARM AIR!!!! Sean and Jo M23 Dauntless

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Re: M_Boats: My new M15
by Holly 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

No, we are on time. Your M_15 will be finished on the 24th. Your deck is finished on the floor; the hull is in the mold because the trailer has not been delivered yet. We expect the trailer to be delivered today (with 2 others from Pacific) The interior is finished. Once we get the trailer we will deck the boat and install the teak trim. The mast and boom are finished; the sails will be picked up in a few days. It only takes a few days to finish up from this point. It is true the Bimini maker is no longer making Bimini's for anyone. You have also added some additional options that add several days to the completion time. So we are not behind schedule. The boat will be ready when you arrive from Texas at the time you requested at the end of the month. Please don't jump to conclusions without asking questions. Sure the Bimini supplier is gone; that is beyond our control. Too bad, but that has nothing to do with finishing up your boat. We are not behind schedule. See you at the agreed time. Your boat will be perfect, as all of them are. Bring money. Fair winds Bob www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227 -----Original Message----- >From: Harry & Nancy <nanarry(a)shaw.ca> >Sent: Jan 16, 2007 7:51 AM >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: M_Boats: My new M15 > >Permit me to provide an update on our M15. You will recall that we're the couple from Thunder Bay on the North shore of L. Superior. Contract was signed Oct.13/06 with approx. completion Jan.15/07 and pickup by us Jan.31/07. I called Bob yesterday(Jan.15) :a) Hull and deck still in mold ,and b)Bimini not available from normal supplier; Bob will have to find a new supplier!!! So, we're way behind schedule. Will Bob pay meals and motel for us while we wait?? I'll keep you posted. Best wishes for 2007 from your Canuck friends(sorry for the COLD we're sending you). Nancy & Harry >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Boat Builder

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My new M15
by Harry & Nancy 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Permit me to provide an update on our M15. You will recall that we're the couple from Thunder Bay on the North shore of L. Superior. Contract was signed Oct.13/06 with approx. completion Jan.15/07 and pickup by us Jan.31/07. I called Bob yesterday(Jan.15) :a) Hull and deck still in mold ,and b)Bimini not available from normal supplier; Bob will have to find a new supplier!!! So, we're way behind schedule. Will Bob pay meals and motel for us while we wait?? I'll keep you posted. Best wishes for 2007 from your Canuck friends(sorry for the COLD we're sending you). Nancy & Harry

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