November 2006 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: M15 Pop up Rudder
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 09 Dec '06

09 Dec '06

Hi Guys Hope every one had a nice holiday. I got to sail Sunday and noticed that the bungie that holds the pop up rudder is in poor condition from the southern sun. Does anyone know what the replacement bungie is? (size, manufacturer, etc) and does anyone have a suggestion as to how to go about replacing it. It looks like a simple thread through and knot but getting the tension right might be a problem. Don in Mobile M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream

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Ramblings!....
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 01 Dec '06

01 Dec '06

Hey Everyone, Mulligan man checking in from AZ. I just saw an awesome site put together by a Potter 19 owner. He has made some really ingenious mods to his boat, (some easy and some pretty elaborate). He also has two trips documented to the San Juan and Gulf Islands. If you are like me...and planning on joining Larry on next years trip, here's some stuff to keep you going through the winter. http://wwp19.home.comcast.net/ Ah.......did I say winter? Yes, I know , this is the time of year I usually start running off at the mouth and bragging about our weather (since we live inside a pizza oven all during the summer!). Well, it'll do you guys good to know that right now as I type its 36 degrees here! Brrrrrrrrrr. Yesterday it blew all day long over 35 knots. Our lake looked like a washing machine. It was supposed to drop to a steady 20 with gusts to aound 30 before dark and we contemplated taking Dauntless out for a late afternoon romp....but the wind never let-up. 30 with gusts to 40 is not what I call fun..more like if you get back with all your fingers intact the day was a success. I actually went down to the boat (mainly to check on it). I quickly realized that whatever the wind chill was....it was too cold to have any fun. It's supposed to "warm" up to around 60, though, today. Winds are supposed to be down to 10-20. Who knows? maybe I'll bundle up and venture out! I try to get some pics if we do and put them on the site. I know, I know.....were all a bunch of cold weather wussys down here! Which brings up another crazy point. Can you believe that Dauntless' website has had over 10,000 hits in less than a year. I'd have lost a bet on that one. I haven't even really updated it in quite a while (since we started sailing her! hahaha). Anyways, that goes to show ya how many folks really love the Montgomery boats. They are real crowd pleasers. I consider myself fortunate to have one to call my own. As an added bonus, we've been blessed with making a bunch of new "Monty" friends. How cool is that? We are taking Dauntless down to the Phoenix area (Lake Pleasant) to sail in the Arizona Yacht Club Birthday Regatta. The real reason we are going though is to hook up with some other Monty owners that are attending. Gary O. who posts on this site fairly often, is going to have his 17 there. He's been working on this boat for a long time and done about everything short of.....well.....no...he's done that too. Anyways, We can't wait to see it. If you live in Southern Ca, Az, NM, CO...come sail with us. It's a three day event. The regatta is actually a "Lukemia Cup" race so all proceeds go to a good cause. What about you Idaho guys?! I know you guys travel! Come on down and "freeze" with us! You can strut around in your t-shirts and shorts (no Speedos please) and make fun of all of us whimpy southerners! (That includes you Jason T. ! I know you read this!) What will the weather be? Who the heck knows! But...it'll be fun and that's the name of the game. If enough 17's show you could probably have your own class. I know that 2 or three have already comitted. The weekend of Jan 12,13 and 14. Last but not least I have some left over Monty shirts hats and mugs. If you can't decide what to get that Monty friend of yours for Christmas....... I don't have all sizes left but let me know what you want and I'll let you know if I have it. If you forgot what they looked like here's the link to the site. www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com Hope everyone is enjoying their Holidays. Sean and 'Jo M23 Daunltess Wooohooo its up to 43 degrees!!!!! lol

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new M17 sailors
by Helen Chien 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hello, my husband Marek and I just got a 1981 Montgomery 17, hull # 332. She is berthed in San Pedro CA and we hope to sail her frequently (to improve my sailing skills!) Unfortunately her centerboard is stuck in the up position (she was in the water with her board down when we got her, the seller cleaned her bottom, raised the board to deliver to us on a trailer, and now it won't come down), and she is missing a piece of glass on her keel, just below the pin which holds the board in the down position (and of course the pin is missing too.) So we'll have to haul her out after Christmas to fix this. We are looking for replacement main and genoa for her as well, as the current sails are original and tearing up after just 2 uses. We also messed up the port side spreader end when we raised the mast and didn't notice that the shroud was twisting itself out of the cap. But in spite of this, we managed to sail her a couple of times already. She sails nicely. Anyway, I'll be browsing the past postings for advice, but any additional input about repairing the keel and replacing the pin, and where to buy spar parts and sails would be much appreciated. Helen & Marek :-)

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Re: M_Boats: M15 Pop up Rudder
by chbenneck＠juno.com 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Hi Don, Replacement bungee cord for the M15 rudder is available at any marine store - by the yard. Check the diameter of what is currently in place and buy the same size. Tension is a try-it and see proposition. Install it. With knot on one side, pull some tension on the bungee and tie it off, and give it a try. If not tight enough, repeat, and tighten some more. T'ain't hard to do. Connie ex M15 LEPPO

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Gravy boat
by Hughston, Larry 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Actually, I was the turkey and my "gravy boat" has seen more water inside of it than outside of it ! Be patient folks. I can only do a couple of hours at a time on this Monty. I am more a preservationist than sailor. That will change. So if you see a very nice little M-15 on Folsom Lake here in California being poorly handled.....that will be me on the water learning how to yell "YeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa". -----Larry ps The gravy in Tucson was warm and tasty....compared to cold, cold California in November !!!

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Re: M_Boats: Midnight Passage trip to P'cola
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 28 Nov '06

28 Nov '06

Joe The next time you plan a trip down here, give me a shout. I've got some local infomation and we may be able to sail togeather one day. Don in Mobile (ludlowd2(a)aol.com)

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Re: M_Boats: Redneck
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 28 Nov '06

28 Nov '06

Thank goodness Jerry I was almost disalusioned Don in Mobile

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Re: M_Boats: Transom Access
by chbenneck＠juno.com 26 Nov '06

26 Nov '06

Hi Skip, I converted my M15 from the fixed motor mount to a lift mount as well. Because of the access problem; ....and I wanted to add a backing plate for the lift mount - my solution to gain sufficient access was to cut a rectangular opening in the aft Port cockpit seat surface. This gave me all the access I needed for easy working, and installation of the new lift mount, and when finished I installed a previously purchased rectangular hatch. The model hatch I used was: BOATER'S WORLD, 2006 Catalog; Page 414 - and I think it was, H Marine Stock No. 2-929-0050. The outside dimensions were 10 3/4" X 15" and it just fit into the area between the sail locker lid and the aft end of the cockpit. It has an O Ring seal and the lid locks in a closed position with a 90 degree turn of the D ring handle. I found that the big advantage of using the locking hatch was that it gave you excellent access for the dark back corner of the sail locker. I kept my cleaning bucket and materials there. Another opinion for your consideration. Connie ex M15 - LEPPO

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Transom Access
by wcampion＠aol.com 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

To All, I am in the process of upgrading/restoring hull #201 (1982). I would like to gain access to the transom so that I can replace the current motor mount and add a ladder to the opposite side. I am considering cutting an access panel in the rear of the boat (cockpit side of course, I'm not a total idiot!), and seal it with a teak louvered vent cover. The teak cover would be simply for looks and allow me to reach both sides of the inside mounting brackets for the motor mount and ladder. The hole would be approx. 6"x9" Does anyone think that this cut would compromise the integrity of the transom or other parts of the boat? It appears that Norm, hull #172 has made a similar mod. I'm guessing this was for the same reason. I am also considering other upgrades such as electrical, so I'd like to know how others have wired their boats and stored the battery. If anyone has any suggestions for additional mods that they consider a "must have", vs "nice to do", I'd appreciate some thoughts. I realize a season or two of sailing the boat would help shed some light on these types of mods, but since I have all winter to wait before sailing season, I thought I'd take advantage of everyone elses experiences. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Skip Still working on a name Hull #201 ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

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Transom Mount Access
by Norm Bundek 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Hi Skip, Yes, I cut an access hole in my cockpit' transom to reach the rudder mounting nuts. I also made the hole long enough to replace both the boarding ladder and motor mount bolts and nuts. I created a detailed account of the access hole at: http://www.yourcommunityweb.com/Monty15/rudderaccess.htm Let me know if you have any other questions. Your can reach of list at: nbundek(a)earthlink.net Norm M15 #172

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