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M17 line drawings
by wayne yeargain 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Jerry If you are still intrested I'd like to try to intregate your cad drawings with my system and complete any areas necessary to get a complete plan & elevation drawings. My boat is a '76 M17 and I can take measurements for items that are not on your drawings. Let me know what you think Contact me off line at saltydog(a)ev1.net Wayne

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M17 line drawings
by wayne yeargain 13 Dec '03

13 Dec '03

Hi Jerry: Sorry your e-mail bounced, don't know why it did that - I am at the same address, must have been a gremlin in the wire. Any way thanks for the M17 line drawings, I got them today, & am going to start some drawings right away. I'll send you and any one who is intrested, some copies when I'm done. Had my M17 out Sat. about 10knt wind and it just romped along like the throughbred it is......... life is sweet. Happy sails Wayne

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Varnish
by Thomas Wilkinson 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

I finally tired of oiling my external teak. It had to be done frequently and I really didn't think it was protecting the wood. I cleaned all the oil and crud off the teak and decided to varnish it. I decided to use Le Tonkinois varnish because of the claimed ease of use. It was easy to apply and looks good. It does not change the color of the wood. I guess now the test is its durability. Does anyone else have experience with Le Tonkinois? Tom M17 Obsessus

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Re: M_Boats: Simple ladder
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

I once had an "L" shaped step mounted on a 22' sailboat (not a Montgomery) rudder and one on the transom. Very easy to boost yourself up on and had zero drag. They were approx 3"x 6" and made of bronze. WC used to make them and I've seen used ones on ebay. 1/4" x 2024 aluminum would probably work for the home built type. Bill P.

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Simple ladder
by Jesse Tate 31 May '03

31 May '03

I came across something ya'll might be interested in. It's a very simple solution to boarding a small boat from the water without using a ladder. The product is called Happy's Swim Stirrup. Basically looks like a plastic saddle stirrup that ties off to a cleat. Takes up very little room to store. Found it at West Marine. Jesse M 15 #343 Carolyn J

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Tiller
by Jesse Tate 31 May '03

31 May '03

I read where several of you had converted to the J 24 tiller for your M 15's. What is the length of the tiller? Also, any suggestions for tiller tamers? Thanks, Jesse M 15 Carolyn J

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RE: M_Boats: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner
by Morris, Giles 30 May '03

30 May '03

I've used silicon for caulking various ports and hatches. I've never used it, but isn't there a 3M 5xxx goop that is removable (as opposed to 5200, which isn't, very)? The manufacturer of the bronze ports that I fitted to Dolphin (New Found Metals) recommended 3M strip caulk, which is (surprise!) strips of caulking intended for fitting auto windshields -- it seemed to work. For that port, though, I think I'd use silicon. Giles Morris -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:03 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Inspection Port, Oven Cleaner I just made the cut. I now have a hole in the cockpit face of my transom, awaiting a new 8" Beckson inspection port. Should I use silicon or caulk to mount this type of access opening? Early posts regarding how to deal with deck stains mentioned oven-cleaner: How long should one wait after applying the oven-cleaner before removing it? If left too long, will it harm the gel-coat? _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: telecommuting
by Smith, Tom 29 May '03

29 May '03

At 19k, you better have free unlimited days, not hours Todd... Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: htmills(a)bright.net [mailto:htmills@bright.net] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:43 PM To: montgomery_boats Subject: M_Boats: telecommuting Well, have now completed step two in the process of being able to spend more time aboard BuscaBrisas... Step one was the laptop. Step two is the ability to connect to the internet via a cell phone. The connection speed is only 19.2k but I think that will be sufficient for my needs, especially since the bulk of file transfer can be done during the "free unlimited minutes" time periods. Field testing to take place next week on the Chesapeake! Results to follow. Tod _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses.

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telecommuting
by htmills＠bright.net 29 May '03

29 May '03

Well, have now completed step two in the process of being able to spend more time aboard BuscaBrisas... Step one was the laptop. Step two is the ability to connect to the internet via a cell phone. The connection speed is only 19.2k but I think that will be sufficient for my needs, especially since the bulk of file transfer can be done during the "free unlimited minutes" time periods. Field testing to take place next week on the Chesapeake! Results to follow. Tod

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Re: M_Boats: M 15 Maiden Voyage
by chbenneck＠juno.com 29 May '03

29 May '03

Jesse, The cam cleats for the jib sheets is definitely the way to go. Then you have instant release if you get hit by a gust. I have a Forespar tiller extension with a box for the knob in the sidewall of the cockpit. By playing with the length of the tiller extension, you can find the point where it will hold a desired course, but .......... if you change the balance of the boat by moving forward or down into the cabin, things change and your course changes........... If you don't have a Forespar tiller extension, then a jam cleat on the P/S cockpit coaming allows you to loop a light line around the tiller and you then adjust the desired line length (course desired) by lengthening or shortening the line using a toggle. The toggle is just a little piece of wood, about 3 inches long with two holes in it. The line from the cleat goes through one hole, around the tiller and then through the second hole where you tie it off with a figure eight knot. Now you can slide the toggle forwards or backwards on the line which changes it's length, and the position of the tiller. I tie off the opposite side with a piece of light bungee cord. I make an eye in the end that slips over the tiller, and then can put the free end in the jam cleat. That way, if you want to release the tiller holding system, you can pull against the bungee cord and slip off the loop of line with the toggle and the bungee cord and the tiller is totally free again. ~~~~~~~~~~~ My tiller extension is currently a mockup, so that I can play with lengths, and tiller height at the forward end to find the length and height that is most comfortable for me. The Forespar tiller extension didn't work too well, because the angle is all wrong. You have about a 120 degree angle between tiller and extension if you are sitting all the way forward in the cockpit. Ideally you want a 90 degree angle so that you can control the tiller better. My current solution for an extension allows me to remove the extension when I want to use the original length tiller, while still giving me the length and the lift at the forward end for comfortable operation. My next thought is to do a total revision so that I have the tiller for raising and lowering the rudder blade, while at the same time being able to lift it completely out of the way when at anchor. My thought there is to cut the tiller just forward of the rudder cheeks and add a substantial hinge on the top surface, and a barrel bolt on the bottom surface to keep the system locked in it's normal operating position while sailing. Having two tillers on hand, I have the luxury of being able to "play" to see how the idea works. Connie

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