Two technical notes ("email trolling"):
Your mail claims Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" but then you use the UTF-8 code for "Pi": Char: π (960, #o1700, #x3c0, file ...) point=1485 of 1704 (87%) column=34 This renders the character either corrupted or "invisible" (happens for me (mutt)) in MUAs that behave correctly.
Further you use Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This means the content is just one big lump of a hex string in the mail-box, making grep useless. I suggest to use Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
cheers, jj
You must be confusing the right way to do things with the GMail way to do things. Despite these irregularities, normally touchy SquirrelMail finds nothing wrong with this GMailing other than receiving two (identical?) simultaneous copies, even though it completely begibbered the πs in my *Subject: * [math-fun] Sum csc($B&P(B k coth 1)/(k log k) converges? [Was: Teacher trolling] (and the Japanese in my Engrish impertinence.) Seriously, can you tell me what to tell GMail? --rwg
* Bill Gosper <billgosper@gmail.com> [May 26. 2012 09:55]:
Two technical notes ("email trolling"):
Your mail claims Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" but then you use the UTF-8 code for "Pi": Char: π (960, #o1700, #x3c0, file ...) point=1485 of 1704 (87%) column=34 This renders the character either corrupted or "invisible" (happens for me (mutt)) in MUAs that behave correctly.
Further you use Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This means the content is just one big lump of a hex string in the mail-box, making grep useless. I suggest to use Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
cheers, jj
You must be confusing the right way to do things with the GMail way to do things. Despite these irregularities, normally touchy SquirrelMail finds nothing wrong with this GMailing other than receiving two (identical?) simultaneous copies, even though it completely begibbered the πs in my *Subject: * [math-fun] Sum csc($B&P(B k coth 1)/(k log k) converges? [Was: Teacher trolling] (and the Japanese in my Engrish impertinence.)
Seriously, can you tell me what to tell GMail? --rwg
I do not know about Gmail. After some research I found out that my terminal (xterm, supposedly using UTF-8) doesn't display any Greek character (but mu). I assumed xterm would handle UTF-8 just fine, that was wrong. Using konsole (the KDE terminal) I see the Pi's in your mails... Let's try: -------- Greek -------- Ά ά Έ έ Ή ή Ί ί Ό ό Ύ ύ Ώ ώ Α α Β β Γ γ Δ δ Ε ε Ζ ζ Η η Θ θ Ι ι Κ κ Λ λ Μ μ Ν ν Ξ ξ Ο ο Π π Ρ ρ Σ σ ς Τ τ Υ υ Φ φ Χ χ Ψ ψ Ω ω -------- Greek -------- -------- Cyrillic -------- А а Б б В в Г г Ґ ґ Ѓ ѓ Д д Ђ ђ Е е Ё ё Є є Ж ж З з Ѕ ѕ И и І і Ї ї Й й Ј ј К к Ќ ќ Л л Љ љ М м Н н Њ њ О о П п Р р С с Т т Ћ ћ У у Ў ў Ф ф Х х Ц ц Ч ч Џ џ Ш ш Щ щ Ъ ъ Ы ы Ь ь Э э Ю ю Я я ́ -------- Cyrillic -------- -------- Accented stuff -------- A a Á á À à  â Ä ä Ǎ ǎ Ă ă Ā ā à ã Å å Ą ą Æ æ Ǣ ǣ B b C c Ć ć Ċ ċ Ĉ ĉ Č č Ç ç D d Ď ď Đ đ Ḍ ḍ Ð ð E e É é È è Ė ė Ê ê Ë ë Ě ě Ĕ ĕ Ē ē Ẽ ẽ Ę ę Ə ə F f G g Ġ ġ Ĝ ĝ Ğ ğ Ģ ģ H h Ĥ ĥ Ħ ħ Ḥ ḥ I i İ ı Í í Ì ì Î î Ï ï Ǐ ǐ Ĭ ĭ Ī ī Ĩ ĩ Į į J j Ĵ ĵ K k Ķ ķ L l Ĺ ĺ Ŀ ŀ Ľ ľ Ļ ļ Ł ł Ḷ ḷ Ḹ ḹ M m Ṃ ṃ N n Ń ń Ň ň Ñ ñ Ņ ņ Ṇ ṇ O o Ó ó Ò ò Ô ô Ö ö Ǒ ǒ Ŏ ŏ Ō ō Õ õ Ǫ ǫ Ő ő Ø ø Œ œ P p Q q R r Ŕ ŕ Ř ř Ŗ ŗ Ṛ ṛ Ṝ ṝ S s Ś ś Ŝ ŝ Š š Ş ş Ṣ ṣ ß T t Ť ť Ţ ţ Ṭ ṭ Þ þ U u Ú ú Ù ù Û û Ü ü Ǔ ǔ Ŭ ŭ Ū ū Ũ ũ Ů ů Ų ų Ű ű Ǘ ǘ Ǜ ǜ Ǚ ǚ Ǖ ǖ V v W w Ŵ ŵ X x Y y Ý ý Ŷ ŷ Ÿ ÿ Ỹ ỹ Ȳ ȳ Z z Ź ź Ż ż Ž ž ß Ð ð Þ þ Ə ə -------- Accented stuff -------- -------- Some symbols -------- ~ | ¡ ¿ † ‡ ↔ ↑ ↓ • ¶ # ½ ⅓ ⅔ ¼ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞ ∞ ‘ ’ “ ” «» ¤ ₳ ฿ ₵ ¢ ₡ ₢ $ ₫ ₯ € ₠ ₣ ƒ ₴ ₭ ₤ ℳ ₥ ₦ № ₧ ₰ £ ៛ ₨ ₪ ৳ ₮ ₩ ¥ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦ m² m³ ♭ ♯ ♮ © ® ™ -------- Some symbols -------- -------- Math and Chemistry -------- ∮ E⋅da = Q, n → ∞, ∑ f(i) = ∏ g(i), ⎧⎡⎛┌─────┐⎞⎤⎫ ⎪⎢⎜│a²+b³ ⎟⎥⎪ ∀x∈ℝ: ⌈x⌉ = −⌊−x⌋, α ∧ ¬β = ¬(¬α ∨ β), ⎪⎢⎜│───── ⎟⎥⎪ ⎪⎢⎜⎷ c₈ ⎟⎥⎪ ℕ ⊆ ℕ₀ ⊂ ℤ ⊂ ℚ ⊂ ℝ ⊂ ℂ, ⎨⎢⎜ ⎟⎥⎬ ⎪⎢⎜ ∞ ⎟⎥⎪ ⊥ < a ≠ b ≡ c ≤ d ≪ ⊤ ⇒ (⟦A⟧ ⇔ ⟪B⟫), ⎪⎢⎜ ⎲ ⎟⎥⎪ ⎪⎢⎜ ⎳aⁱ-bⁱ⎟⎥⎪ 2H₂ + O₂ ⇌ 2H₂O, R = 4.7 kΩ, ⌀ 200 mm ⎩⎣⎝i=1 ⎠⎦⎭ -------- Math and Chemistry -------- If you cannot see some of the above, opening the mail in an editor may render the missing chars visible. cheers, jj
"JA" == Joerg Arndt <arndt@jjj.de> writes:
JA> I assumed xterm would handle UTF-8 just fine, that was wrong. Xterm likely requires a single font with all of the glyphs you require. I use rxvt-unicode, which accepts a list of fonts so as to provide fallbacks. -JimC -- James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
* James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> [May 28. 2012 09:32]:
"JA" == Joerg Arndt <arndt@jjj.de> writes:
JA> I assumed xterm would handle UTF-8 just fine, that was wrong.
Xterm likely requires a single font with all of the glyphs you require.
I use rxvt-unicode, which accepts a list of fonts so as to provide fallbacks.
-JimC -- James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
[Not math, not quite fun, but arguably useful for this list.] For xterm the following font works perfectly: xterm -fn '-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-60-ISO10646-1' The binary for rxvt-unicode is 'urxvt', that took me a few seconds to find out. The urxvt man page mentions mlterm which appears to work as well (unicode wise, that is). ctrl-right-mouse gives a neat GUI menu to let one manipulate about everything one might want to adjust. Is there any (convenient, automated) way to list the fonts that 'work'? (I could loop over the output of xlsfonts and inspect, but there are way to many fonts to check). The following is a very useful resource: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
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