[math-fun] Nice knowing you all
A goodbye note. Given my job search success over the past 7 months, it would be irresponsible for me to continue to market myself as a techie. A job search these days is tantamount to a sales job without commission, and apparently I have a pretty poor product to sell. If I am going to be a salesman, then dammit, I'm going to choose my own market and reap my own benefits. Therefore, I have decided to start my own business (my first foray into the business world will be selling gift baskets. No opinions on my probability of success will be tolerated. I will allow you to wish me good luck if you feel so inclined). I am also dropping mathematics as a hobby. My contribution is small, my time limited, my tools inadequate, and my interest waning. I have a moderate collection of mathematics and computer science titles gathering dust on my shelves, I plan to trash these. If there is interest I will post titles and make them available at shipping cost. I respectfully request to be dropped from the math-fun and seqfan mailing lists. As of late, I have not been able to follow the discussions with much interest, being preoccupied as I am with my family's future well-being. I have also not been fulfilling my role as OEIS editor in any substantive way, and request to be dropped from the editor list. It was an honor to be chosen, Neil. (I might still be induced to fix or extend a sequence now and then). Thank you all for your kindness and consideration over the years. I have been feeling quite bitter as of late, and you good friends do not deserve to hear my vitriol on a recurring basis. I feel I must turn my whole attention to other endeavors. I remain available at davidwwilson@attbi.com. ;-) - Dave Wilson
From: "David Wilson" <davidwwilson@attbi.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:29:20 -0500 A goodbye note. Given my job search success over the past 7 months, it would be irresponsible for me to continue to market myself as a techie. A job search these days is tantamount to a sales job without commission, and apparently I have a pretty poor product to sell. I seriously doubt it. I just think that the market is glutted with similar products at the moment, and that will change. I know you only from your posts to math-fun, but I would hire you in a minute. Unfortunately, the company I work for isn't hiring. Saying you have a poor product to sell is saying you're not a good techie, and I just don't believe this. Looking for a job and not finding one can be self-esteem-destroying, and that's bad. I'm sure you're a smart guy, and would be a great catch for whatever company hires you. I hope the economy improves. If I am going to be a salesman, then dammit, I'm going to choose my own market and reap my own benefits. Therefore, I have decided to start my own business (my first foray into the business world will be selling gift baskets. No opinions on my probability of success will be tolerated. I will allow you to wish me good luck if you feel so inclined). I wish you the best of luck in your new endeavors. I admire the courage it takes to start a completely new career. When the economy improves, I expect you will be in the enviable position of having the choice of jobs in two different fields as a result. I am also dropping mathematics as a hobby. My contribution is small, my time limited, my tools inadequate, and my interest waning. I'm sad that we won't see your posts on math-fun any more. I've enjoyed them. You'll be missed. Andy Latto andy.latto@pobox.com
I suggested to David that he consider waiting out the economic slump by going to grad school. It's a great use of time to bring one skills up to date, or to abandon a dead-end career and make a switch. Although I'm not unemployed, I'm actually doing this myself. I got tired of software engineering, and I'm now a distance learning grad student in optical sciences at the University of Arizona. I don't know what sort of job David used to have, or what he was looking for, since "techie" is pretty vague. I guessed that he wrote software, and suggested two areas where there is demand (though not at my company). One is embedded systems, writing software to operate devices, interfacing to the operator and to the hardware. The other is software validation. We've laid off people in these areas, and they've had little trouble landing a new position. I hope David is not going alone into his new endeavor; he will need a lot of human interfacing and business skills and will have to somehow build up a customer base. It's very risky without the help of a friend or relative already in the business. Gene Salamin --- Andy Latto <andy.latto@pobox.com> wrote:
From: "David Wilson" <davidwwilson@attbi.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:29:20 -0500
A goodbye note.
Given my job search success over the past 7 months, it would be irresponsible for me to continue to market myself as a techie. A job search these days is tantamount to a sales job without commission, and apparently I have a pretty poor product to sell.
I seriously doubt it. I just think that the market is glutted with similar products at the moment, and that will change.
I know you only from your posts to math-fun, but I would hire you in a minute. Unfortunately, the company I work for isn't hiring.
Saying you have a poor product to sell is saying you're not a good techie, and I just don't believe this. Looking for a job and not finding one can be self-esteem-destroying, and that's bad. I'm sure you're a smart guy, and would be a great catch for whatever company hires you. I hope the economy improves.
If I am going to be a salesman, then dammit, I'm going to choose my own market and reap my own benefits. Therefore, I have decided to start my own business (my first foray into the business world will be selling gift baskets. No opinions on my probability of success will be tolerated. I will allow you to wish me good luck if you feel so inclined).
I wish you the best of luck in your new endeavors. I admire the courage it takes to start a completely new career. When the economy improves, I expect you will be in the enviable position of having the choice of jobs in two different fields as a result.
I am also dropping mathematics as a hobby. My contribution is small, my time limited, my tools inadequate, and my interest waning.
I'm sad that we won't see your posts on math-fun any more. I've enjoyed them. You'll be missed.
Andy Latto
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