[math-fun] Hyperbolic paraboloid
John Partridge asked me about the hyperbolic paraboloid shown in http://pyrigan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CelebrationOfMind.pdf Is the 2D projection of the hole a true circle? See page 12. Jim Propp
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On Nov 16, 2016, at 12:57 PM, James Propp <jamespropp@gmail.com> wrote:
http://pyrigan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CelebrationOfMind.pdf <http://pyrigan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/CelebrationOfMind.pdf>
First of all he claims that the graph of the function z = xy has constant negative curvature. It does not. Besides the fact that direct calculation proves otherwise, it's a celebrated theorem of Hilbert that there does not exist any complete surface of constant negative curvature in 3-dimensional space, but the graph of that function would be just that if defined over all x and y. And because the function is polynomial, its Gaussian curvature function K(x, y) (for the curvature at the point (x, y, xy) on the graph) must be real analytic. So it can't be constant for some of the surface and non-constant for other parts. ((( Direct calculation gives K(x, y) = -1/(1 + x^2 + y^2)^2 . ))) His manipulation of 3D pieces seems fascinating; I wish I could follow what he's doing, but I don't understand it. —Dan P.S. Can someone please explain this Mathematica output? I cannot. The -uv^2 term ought to be -(uv)^2 and cancel the u^2 v^2 term. ----- In[11]:= mI = {{1+v^2, uv}, {uv, 1+u^2}} 2 2 Out[11]= {{1 + v , uv}, {uv, 1 + u }} In[12]:= Inverse[mI] 2 1 + u uv Out[12]= {{-------------------------, -(-------------------------)}, 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 + u - uv + v + u v 1 + u - uv + v + u v 2 uv 1 + v
{-(-------------------------), -------------------------}} 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 + u - uv + v + u v 1 + u - uv + v + u v
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On 17/11/2016 01:03, Dan Asimov wrote:
P.S. Can someone please explain this Mathematica output? I cannot. The -uv^2 term ought to be -(uv)^2 and cancel the u^2 v^2 term.
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In[11]:= mI = {{1+v^2, uv}, {uv, 1+u^2}} [etc.]
If you want "u times v" you need to write "u v", not "uv". It's treating uv as a separate variable. -- g
Thanks, Gareth. I can be extremely dumb, especially on certain days like today! —Dan
On Nov 16, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Gareth McCaughan <gareth.mccaughan@pobox.com> wrote:
On 17/11/2016 01:03, Dan Asimov wrote:
P.S. Can someone please explain this Mathematica output? I cannot. The -uv^2 term ought to be -(uv)^2 and cancel the u^2 v^2 term.
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In[11]:= mI = {{1+v^2, uv}, {uv, 1+u^2}} [etc.]
If you want "u times v" you need to write "u v", not "uv". It's treating uv as a separate variable.
Moebius band rotations puzzle: ----- Find explicitly a subset of the space SO(3) of rotations of 3-space that is topologically a (closed) Moebius band. ----- Bonus question: ----- Find explicitly three subsets M_1, M_2, M_3 of SO(3) that are each topologically a closed Moebius band, and such that the intersection of any two of them is topologically a disk. Do this so the solution is minimal, in the sense that replacing any M_j by a proper subset M_j' will not satisfy the conditions. ----- —Dan
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