[math-fun] Microsoft Has a Plan to Add DNA Data Storage to Its Cloud
FYI -- Provides a whole new meaning for 'cloud seeding'... BTW, I seem to recall previously suggesting that HAKMEM be published in DNA, but got no interest. Should I try again? 'Think of those old floppy disks you can't read anymore or clay tablets with indecipherable hieroglyphs. Unlike such media, DNA probably won't ever go out of style.' https://www.technologyreview.com/s/607880/microsoft-has-a-plan-to-add-dna-da... 'The aim is a "proto-commercial system in three years storing some amount of data on DNA in one of our data centers, for at least a boutique application," says Doug Carmean, a partner architect at Microsoft Research. He describes the eventual device as the size of a large, 1970s-era Xerox copier.' 'Internally, Microsoft harbors the even more ambitious goal of replacing tape drives, a common format used for archiving information. "We hope to get it branded as 'Your Storage with DNA,'" says Carmean.' 'Formatted in DNA, every movie ever made would fit inside a volume smaller than a sugar cube.' 'Last July, Microsoft publicly announced it had stored 200 megabytes of data in DNA strands, including a music video, setting a record. The work, described in a paper published in March on the pre-print server Biorxiv, has been led by Carmean and Karin Strauss, both of Microsoft Research, and the University of Washington laboratory of computer scientist Luis Ceze.' http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/03/07/114553 'Based on the several weeks it took to carry out their experiment, Carmean estimates that the rate of moving data into DNA was only 400 bytes per second. Microsoft says that needs to increase to 100 megabytes per second.' 'Think of those old floppy disks you can't read anymore or clay tablets with indecipherable hieroglyphs. Unlike such media, DNA probably won't ever go out of style.' '"We'll always be reading DNA as long as we are human," says Carmean.'
So then, how do your read out the data? Do you toss the chip into a Petri dish? -- Gene On Monday, May 22, 2017, 4:23:07 PM PDT, Henry Baker <hbaker1@pipeline.com> wrote:FYI -- Provides a whole new meaning for 'cloud seeding'... BTW, I seem to recall previously suggesting that HAKMEM be published in DNA, but got no interest. Should I try again? 'Think of those old floppy disks you can't read anymore or clay tablets with indecipherable hieroglyphs. Unlike such media, DNA probably won't ever go out of style.' https://www.technologyreview.com/s/607880/microsoft-has-a-plan-to-add-dna-da... 'The aim is a "proto-commercial system in three years storing some amount of data on DNA in one of our data centers, for at least a boutique application," says Doug Carmean, a partner architect at Microsoft Research. He describes the eventual device as the size of a large, 1970s-era Xerox copier.' 'Internally, Microsoft harbors the even more ambitious goal of replacing tape drives, a common format used for archiving information. "We hope to get it branded as 'Your Storage with DNA,'" says Carmean.' 'Formatted in DNA, every movie ever made would fit inside a volume smaller than a sugar cube.' 'Last July, Microsoft publicly announced it had stored 200 megabytes of data in DNA strands, including a music video, setting a record. The work, described in a paper published in March on the pre-print server Biorxiv, has been led by Carmean and Karin Strauss, both of Microsoft Research, and the University of Washington laboratory of computer scientist Luis Ceze.' http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/03/07/114553 'Based on the several weeks it took to carry out their experiment, Carmean estimates that the rate of moving data into DNA was only 400 bytes per second. Microsoft says that needs to increase to 100 megabytes per second.' 'Think of those old floppy disks you can't read anymore or clay tablets with indecipherable hieroglyphs. Unlike such media, DNA probably won't ever go out of style.' '"We'll always be reading DNA as long as we are human," says Carmean.'
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png> from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen. Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.) The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle. Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls? —Dan
Couldn't reproduce Dan's illusion. But I _can_ remember the sixties ... WFL On 5/26/17, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png>
from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen.
Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.)
The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle.
Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls?
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Can reproduce Dan's illusion; unfortunately, cannot remember the sixties ... APG
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Couldn't reproduce Dan's illusion. But I _can_ remember the sixties ... WFL
On 5/26/17, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png>
from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen.
Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.)
The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle.
Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls?
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I can see what Dan is talking about. That image is complicated, though. It's very hard to say what aspect is eliciting the effect. For me the effect is pronounced at first, and then diminishes. It would be good to come up with more abstract images that also elicit the effect. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Adam P. Goucher <apgoucher@gmx.com> wrote:
Can reproduce Dan's illusion; unfortunately, cannot remember the sixties ... APG
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:21 PM From: "Fred Lunnon" <fred.lunnon@gmail.com> To: math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [math-fun] Koosh illusion
Couldn't reproduce Dan's illusion. But I _can_ remember the sixties ... WFL
On 5/26/17, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png>
from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen.
Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.)
The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle.
Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls?
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Maybe I should mention that the effect seemed either very diminished or absent entirely when I kept my head still and just shifted my gaze around the aforementioned circle. —Dan
On May 26, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Allan Wechsler <acwacw@gmail.com> wrote:
I can see what Dan is talking about. That image is complicated, though. It's very hard to say what aspect is eliciting the effect. For me the effect is pronounced at first, and then diminishes. It would be good to come up with more abstract images that also elicit the effect.
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Adam P. Goucher <apgoucher@gmx.com> wrote:
Can reproduce Dan's illusion; unfortunately, cannot remember the sixties ... APG
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:21 PM From: "Fred Lunnon" <fred.lunnon@gmail.com> To: math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [math-fun] Koosh illusion
Couldn't reproduce Dan's illusion. But I _can_ remember the sixties ... WFL
On 5/26/17, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png>
from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen.
Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.)
The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle.
Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls?
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Here is another visual / brain image-processing test that I was completely skeptical about until I tried it, and was quite shocked in fact to observe it. It involves standing directly in front of a wall mounted mirror, say at distance of 18" from it, in a room that has very, very, low light—light that *just* suffices for you to see your face, and only when your eyes are fully dilated. To do this right, it's essential that you initially be able to see absolutely nothing of your face because it's too dark. The hardest thing about trying this experiment is that it requires light so low that it requires a wait as least as long as 10-15 minutes for your eyes to dilate enough so that you're able to see your face in the mirror. But be patient and try it. What happens at the time when your bored brain can just barely begin to see your face is that your face will present itself to you as a variety of incredibly grotesque images. And this period goes on for as long as several minutes. The first time I tried it I was shocked and immediately went for the light switch. This one definitely *is* like returning the great substance eras (eg the 1960s). But it is much cheaper and safer. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
Maybe I should mention that the effect seemed either very diminished or absent entirely when I kept my head still and just shifted my gaze around the aforementioned circle.
—Dan
On May 26, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Allan Wechsler <acwacw@gmail.com> wrote:
I can see what Dan is talking about. That image is complicated, though. It's very hard to say what aspect is eliciting the effect. For me the effect is pronounced at first, and then diminishes. It would be good to come up with more abstract images that also elicit the effect.
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Adam P. Goucher <apgoucher@gmx.com> wrote:
Can reproduce Dan's illusion; unfortunately, cannot remember the sixties ... APG
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:21 PM From: "Fred Lunnon" <fred.lunnon@gmail.com> To: math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [math-fun] Koosh illusion
Couldn't reproduce Dan's illusion. But I _can_ remember the sixties ... WFL
On 5/26/17, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png>
from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen.
Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.)
The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle.
Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls?
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I shouldn't let that worry you too much. The relevant theorem states "If you can remember the sixties --- you weren't there!". But there is no reverse implication. WFL On 5/26/17, Adam P. Goucher <apgoucher@gmx.com> wrote:
Can reproduce Dan's illusion; unfortunately, cannot remember the sixties ... APG
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 at 5:21 PM From: "Fred Lunnon" <fred.lunnon@gmail.com> To: math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [math-fun] Koosh illusion
Couldn't reproduce Dan's illusion. But I _can_ remember the sixties ... WFL
On 5/26/17, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
I was looking at this photo of a Koosh ball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koosh_ball#/media/File:KOOSH.png>
from about a foot away from my 27" computer screen.
Closing one eye, I moved my head in a very small circle while remaining a foot away: just a little to the right, then above, then to the left, then below (rinse, lather, repeat) of dead center on the Koosh ball — and while doing so, have my gaze cycle around a circle on the screen centered at the center of the ball's image. (The screen circle is roughly the nearest screen point to my head at a given moment.)
The result: a persuasive illusion that the image is changing slightly due to parallax, that is, depending on the varying positions of the eye as it moves in a circle.
Question: Is this a known illusion? Does it generalize beyond Koosh balls?
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