[math-fun] Interplanetary microbes?
http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/04/12/0336211/scientists-study-trajecto...
Posted by <mailto:samzenpus@slashdot.org>samzenpus on Thursday April 12, @08:07AM from the we-come-from-earth dept. <http://honorewmarland.com/>Hugh Pickens writes "About 65 million years ago, Earth was struck by an asteroid some 10 km in diameter with a mass of well over a trillion tonnes that created megatsunamis, global wildfires ignited by giant clouds of superheated ash, and the mass extinction of land-based life on Earth. Now astrobiologists have begun to study a less well known consequence: the ejection of billions of tons of life-bearing rocks and water into space that has made its way not just to other planets but other solar systems as well. Calculations by Tetsuya Hara and his colleagues at Kyoto Sangyo University in Japan show that a surprisingly large amount of life-bearing material ended up not on the Moon and Mars, as might be expected, but the <http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27720/>Jovian moon Europa and the Saturnian moon Enceladus also received tons of life-bearing rock from earth. Even more amazingly, calculations suggest that most Earth ejecta ended up in interstellar space and some has probably already arrived at Earth-like exoplanets orbiting other stars. Hara estimates that about a thousand Earth-rocks from this event would have made the trip to Gliese 581, a red dwarf some 20 light years away that is thought to <http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2022489,00.html>have a super-Earth orbiting at the edge of the habitable zone, taking about a million years to reach its destination. Of course, nobody knows if microbes can survive that kind of journey or even the shorter trips to Europa and Enceladus. But Hara says that if microbes can survive that kind of journey, they <http://journalofcosmology.com/PanspermiaHara.pdf>ought to flourish on a super-Earth in the habitable zone (PDF). ...
--this all sounds like total garbage to me. There is no way the simulators could know a lot of important input info which would have completely changed their results.
Re my idea before that perhaps the Melosh eject-from-earth notions could be saved by the "swarming" idea that an ejected mountain, even if fragmented into pebbles, might still make it up thru Earth's atmosphere because atmosphere would not "notice" the fragmentation had occurred until too late... ...it occurs to me that this actually was tested by experiment. Specifically, the 30 June 1908 "Tunguska event" in a sparsely populated part of Siberia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event This was a large explosion estimated 5-to-30 megatons based on the damage (huge amount of flattened forest, charring, etc). This event must have been caused by a meteor weighing order 1 million tons. This would have been far more than enough t make it to ground level essentially un-slowed-down by air drag, so almost all the energy should have been dissipated on impact, not in air. However, there was no or essentially no blast crater, i.e. there was no ground impact. It was a multimegaton "air burst" at 5-10km up. There was a lot of dust but no larger ground hitting object has been found, although these is some unconfirmed speculation a solid mass of a few tons (tiny compared to original) did hit and now is buried below a lake/mud. The only explanation is that this meteor was made of weak material which exploded and fragmented in mid-air, and the fragments were small enough (enough surface to volume ratio, interiors thus uninsulated) that they could be totally vaporized by the air. Point is, IF there were a "swarming" effect where the atmosphere "did not notice" the meteor had fragmented and the drag was therefore comparable to if unfragmented, then it still would have hit the ground in a huge slam. It did not. I conclude that at least in the particular circumstances of this case, the swarming hypothesis is disproven by test. This also proves that at least for the particular composition of this object, materials strengths were weak enough to cause a massive fragmentation even though the stresses were presumably a lot smaller than would have been suffered in a Melosh impact-blast-ejection scenario. Obviously, such fragmentation does not always happen, since we know that huge meteors made of strong stuff can and have made it down to the Earth's surface in one piece. But it can happen, and did in the only known case in recorded human history. This --- (1) swarming theory refuted in only experiment, (2) large unfragmented theory refuted in only experiment --- makes it more difficult for the Meloshian "eject life in rocks" theory to work.
I thought the general belief, from the lack of an imapact crater, is that the object was a comet, i.e. mostly ice. But perhaps I'm not up-to-date on this subject. -- Gene
________________________________ From: Hans Havermann <gladhobo@teksavvy.com> To: math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [math-fun] Interplanetary microbes?
Warren Smith:
This event must have been caused by a meteor...
A popular, though not universal, opinion. Astrophysicist Wolfgang Kundt, for example, still champions Andrei Olchowatow's volcanic outblow explanation for the Tunguska event.
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Andrei Olchowatow's volcanic outblow explanation for the Tunguska event
Andrei spells his surname Ol'khovatov. I didn't realize that has a website: http://olkhov.narod.ru/tunguska/index.html
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