Re: [math-fun] software eutrophication [was: math-fun] about pdf readers
es> So, Bill, have you had any better luck with Macsyma, or some other symbolic software? -- Gene I'm *constantly* pasting back and forth between virtual XP Macsyma and Mma. (My PeeSee with Derive and an ancient Maple has died.) PC Macsyma 2.4 was compiled in NT on an i286 in another century. Besides microcephaly, the underlying Lisp has a storage leak. And there are other serious bugs and deficiencies. Howard Cannon has fixed some of these in 2.5, which he is not allowed to give me. Mathematica, apart from the Sum braindamage, has amassed awesome functionality and capacity. E.g., factoring that EDS[314] polynomial of degree 6163 with 1090 digit coefficients. An unreleased version with even greater numeric capacity has smashed the pi continued fraction record. WRI clearly still has things under control. I can only hope they will soon recognize the Sum situation as untenable. --rwg
I'm still trying to free Macsyma from its bondage, or even trying to buy it out, but no luck even getting in contact with 2-3 people who have any say about it, unfortunately. -Robert On 2/13/2012 4:55 PM, Bill Gosper wrote:
es>
So, Bill, have you had any better luck with Macsyma, or some other symbolic software?
-- Gene
I'm *constantly* pasting back and forth between virtual XP Macsyma and Mma. (My PeeSee with Derive and an ancient Maple has died.)
PC Macsyma 2.4 was compiled in NT on an i286 in another century. Besides microcephaly, the underlying Lisp has a storage leak. And there are other serious bugs and deficiencies. Howard Cannon has fixed some of these in 2.5, which he is not allowed to give me.
Mathematica, apart from the Sum braindamage, has amassed awesome functionality and capacity. E.g., factoring that EDS[314] polynomial of degree 6163 with 1090 digit coefficients. An unreleased version with even greater numeric capacity has smashed the pi continued fraction record. WRI clearly still has things under control. I can only hope they will soon recognize the Sum situation as untenable. --rwg _______________________________________________ math-fun mailing list math-fun@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun
I subscribe to the Maxima email list & it appears that there is real progress on it. Maxima apparently runs on a number of different lisps, including what used to be Apple Lisp (one of the most advanced lisp implementations). I think that Maxima may even be available on a 64-bit lisp by now. Submit a bug report & see if those on this list can fix it. "maxima@math.utexas.edu" At 04:09 PM 2/13/2012, Robert Smith wrote:
I'm still trying to free Macsyma from its bondage, or even trying to buy it out, but no luck even getting in contact with 2-3 people who have any say about it, unfortunately.
-Robert
On 2/13/2012 4:55 PM, Bill Gosper wrote:
es>
So, Bill, have you had any better luck with Macsyma, or some other symbolic software?
-- Gene
I'm *constantly* pasting back and forth between virtual XP Macsyma and Mma. (My PeeSee with Derive and an ancient Maple has died.)
PC Macsyma 2.4 was compiled in NT on an i286 in another century. Besides microcephaly, the underlying Lisp has a storage leak. And there are other serious bugs and deficiencies. Howard Cannon has fixed some of these in 2.5, which he is not allowed to give me.
Mathematica, apart from the Sum braindamage, has amassed awesome functionality and capacity. E.g., factoring that EDS[314] polynomial of degree 6163 with 1090 digit coefficients. An unreleased version with even greater numeric capacity has smashed the pi continued fraction record. WRI clearly still has things under control. I can only hope they will soon recognize the Sum situation as untenable. --rwg
On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Henry Baker wrote:
I subscribe to the Maxima email list & it appears that there is real progress on it.
Maxima apparently runs on a number of different lisps, including what used to be Apple Lisp (one of the most advanced lisp implementations). I think that Maxima may even be available on a 64-bit lisp by now.
Yes this is true. It runs on today's most advanced Lisp: SBCL (derived from CMUCL). I am planning a book with one of the Maxima developers, in fact. But having used Maxima and Macsyma, I must say Macsyma is still a good deal ahead. -Robert
Submit a bug report & see if those on this list can fix it.
"maxima@math.utexas.edu"
At 04:09 PM 2/13/2012, Robert Smith wrote:
I'm still trying to free Macsyma from its bondage, or even trying to buy it out, but no luck even getting in contact with 2-3 people who have any say about it, unfortunately.
-Robert
On 2/13/2012 4:55 PM, Bill Gosper wrote:
es>
So, Bill, have you had any better luck with Macsyma, or some other symbolic software?
-- Gene
I'm *constantly* pasting back and forth between virtual XP Macsyma and Mma. (My PeeSee with Derive and an ancient Maple has died.)
PC Macsyma 2.4 was compiled in NT on an i286 in another century. Besides microcephaly, the underlying Lisp has a storage leak. And there are other serious bugs and deficiencies. Howard Cannon has fixed some of these in 2.5, which he is not allowed to give me.
Mathematica, apart from the Sum braindamage, has amassed awesome functionality and capacity. E.g., factoring that EDS[314] polynomial of degree 6163 with 1090 digit coefficients. An unreleased version with even greater numeric capacity has smashed the pi continued fraction record. WRI clearly still has things under control. I can only hope they will soon recognize the Sum situation as untenable. --rwg
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