Re: [math-fun] OT: Elsevier
These tactics aren't currently as feasible as some others right now, because Elsevier's pricing policy leads cash- strapped university libraries to subscribe to bundles including many unneeded journals together with a few needed ones. But Elsevier very recently announced that it will no longer lobby for the Research Works Act < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Works_Act >, so maybe progress can be made. It's only a matter of years before some form of reliable and virtually free peer-editing and reviewing is applied to those arXiv articles whose authors opt for it. --Dan Gene wrote: << Omitted from the list: (1) won't buy, (2) recommend that library discontinue subscription.
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On 3/16/12, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
... It's only a matter of years before some form of reliable and virtually free peer-editing and reviewing is applied to those arXiv articles whose authors opt for it.
I understand that in arXiv sections concerned with particle physics, submissions are already subjected to some kind of referee process. A couple of years ago there were objections raised to its introduction by a bunch of physicists who felt discriminated against, and a rival called viXra set up in competition. WFL
From: Fred lunnon <fred.lunnon@gmail.com>
To: Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net>; math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [math-fun] OT: Elsevier
On 3/16/12, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
... It's only a matter of years before some form of reliable and virtually free peer-editing and reviewing is applied to those arXiv articles whose authors opt for it.
I understand that in arXiv sections concerned with particle physics, submissions are already subjected to some kind of referee process. A couple of years ago there were objections raised to its introduction by a bunch of physicists who felt discriminated against, and a rival called viXra set up in competition.
WFL
There is no longer any need for a journal to have a printing press, and the only useful feature they provide is peer-editing and review. Can someone in the academic community answer this: What are the obstacles that prevent authors from bypassing these price-gouging journals and publishing electronically, with peer review? -- Gene
Well, there may be issues for junior faculty in terms of tenure and promotion. (In the short-term, I mean, until/if/when alternatives to journals are accepted, and the quality and selectivity of various forms of peer-review are determined.) ----- Message from gene_salamin@yahoo.com --------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Eugene Salamin <gene_salamin@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Eugene Salamin <gene_salamin@yahoo.com>, math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [math-fun] OT: Elsevier To: math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com>
From: Fred lunnon <fred.lunnon@gmail.com>
To: Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net>; math-fun <math-fun@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [math-fun] OT: Elsevier
On 3/16/12, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
... It's only a matter of years before some form of reliable and virtually free peer-editing and reviewing is applied to those arXiv articles whose authors opt for it.
I understand that in arXiv sections concerned with particle physics, submissions are already subjected to some kind of referee process. A couple of years ago there were objections raised to its introduction by a bunch of physicists who felt discriminated against, and a rival called viXra set up in competition.
WFL
There is no longer any need for a journal to have a printing press, and the only useful feature they provide is peer-editing and review. Can someone in the academic community answer this: What are the obstacles that prevent authors from bypassing these price-gouging journals and publishing electronically, with peer review?
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