Re: [math-fun] flat corners
Oops: make that 4 vertices, 12 edges, and 8 faces (check: 4-12+8=0).
It's fairly clear that this problem will fall soon; somebody will give an exact construction of an example. I'm pretty sure I've seen origami models with zigzag pleats that could probably be extended and bent into a torus with little effort. That having been said, it seems to me that this problem would be an excellent exercise in genetic algorithms. Specify a "polyhedron" as a topological complex, with points at given coordinates, edges between given pairs of points, faces among given cycles of edges. Genetic operators would shift points slightly, add or delete edges, and mutate the incidence relations. The fitness function would penalize nonplanar or self-intersecting faces, and faces that interpenetrated each other, as well as violations of the necessary incidence relations; it would reward small numbers of vertices and of course the correct genus. This is only a sketch; it would be a nice seminar term project to fill in the details and see if the approach found any interesting small examples. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, James Propp <jpropp@cs.uml.edu> wrote:
Oops: make that 4 vertices, 12 edges, and 8 faces (check: 4-12+8=0).
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On 8/9/09, Allan Wechsler <acwacw@gmail.com> wrote:
It's fairly clear that this problem will fall soon; somebody will give an exact construction of an example. I'm pretty sure I've seen origami models with zigzag pleats that could probably be extended and bent into a torus with little effort.
Jim Propp asked for a polyhedral origami torus, that is one properly embedded in 3-space, and having vertices where the face angles always add to 2\pi. The following construction gives a pencil of examples with 20 faces (4 square + 16 triangular), 12 vertices, 32 edges. The vertices with their Cartesian coordinates comprise 8 corners of a cube: U1 at (+1,+1,+1), U2 at (+1,-1,+1), U3 at (-1,-1,+1), U4 at (-1,+1,+1), V1 at (+1,+1,+1), V2 at (+1,-1,-1), V3 at (-1,-1,-1), V4 at (-1,+1,-1), together with 4 points forming an interior skew quadrilateral: W12 at (+q,0,+h), W23 at (0,-q,-h), W34 at (-q,0,+h), W41 at (0,+q,-h), where q,h are related parameters. The faces comprise a band of 4 square faces around the cube: {U1,U2,V2,V1}, {U2,U3,V3,V2}, {U3,U4,V4,V3}, {U4,U1,V1,V4}, 8 triangles joining top and bottom edges to the nearest interior points: {W12,U2,U1}, {W23,U3,U2}, {W34,U4,U3}, {W41,U4,U1}, {U1,U2,W12}, {U2,U3,W23}, {U3,U4,W34}, {U4,U1,W41}, 8 triangles joining corners to nearest quad edges: {U2,W12,W23}, {U3,W23,W34}, {U4,W34,W41}, {U1,W41,W12}, {V2,W23,W12}, {V3,W34,W23}, {V4,W41,W34}, {V1,W12,W41}. The internal "radius" q must satisfy 0 < q < 1 for proper embedding, but is otherwise arbitrary; the "height" h = h(q) is then fixed apart from sign, taking the (same!) value h = 1.224744871 at q = 0 and 1, with maximum h = 1.287188506 near q = 0.58579. This behaviour is rather surprising: there is no obvious reason why the angle sums at the U/V and W vertices should be related, as q and h vary independently; yet whenever one takes the value 2\pi, so does the other simultaneously! I prepared a movie showing this polyhedron as a function of q, but at the moment I can't think of anywhere to put it --- if anybody wants to see it, I'll happily email directly to them (.GIF movie --- any browser should be able to cope). Fred Lunnon [11/08/09]
Fred: (1) I'd like to see the movie (2) Convert it to a video and put it up on YouTube! Or maybe tinypic.com, which hosts images, so no conversion to video required. --Michael On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Fred lunnon <fred.lunnon@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/9/09, Allan Wechsler <acwacw@gmail.com> wrote:
It's fairly clear that this problem will fall soon; somebody will give an exact construction of an example. I'm pretty sure I've seen origami models with zigzag pleats that could probably be extended and bent into a torus with little effort.
Jim Propp asked for a polyhedral origami torus, that is one properly embedded in 3-space, and having vertices where the face angles always add to 2\pi. The following construction gives a pencil of examples with 20 faces (4 square + 16 triangular), 12 vertices, 32 edges.
The vertices with their Cartesian coordinates comprise 8 corners of a cube: U1 at (+1,+1,+1), U2 at (+1,-1,+1), U3 at (-1,-1,+1), U4 at (-1,+1,+1), V1 at (+1,+1,+1), V2 at (+1,-1,-1), V3 at (-1,-1,-1), V4 at (-1,+1,-1), together with 4 points forming an interior skew quadrilateral: W12 at (+q,0,+h), W23 at (0,-q,-h), W34 at (-q,0,+h), W41 at (0,+q,-h), where q,h are related parameters.
The faces comprise a band of 4 square faces around the cube: {U1,U2,V2,V1}, {U2,U3,V3,V2}, {U3,U4,V4,V3}, {U4,U1,V1,V4}, 8 triangles joining top and bottom edges to the nearest interior points: {W12,U2,U1}, {W23,U3,U2}, {W34,U4,U3}, {W41,U4,U1}, {U1,U2,W12}, {U2,U3,W23}, {U3,U4,W34}, {U4,U1,W41}, 8 triangles joining corners to nearest quad edges: {U2,W12,W23}, {U3,W23,W34}, {U4,W34,W41}, {U1,W41,W12}, {V2,W23,W12}, {V3,W34,W23}, {V4,W41,W34}, {V1,W12,W41}.
The internal "radius" q must satisfy 0 < q < 1 for proper embedding, but is otherwise arbitrary; the "height" h = h(q) is then fixed apart from sign, taking the (same!) value h = 1.224744871 at q = 0 and 1, with maximum h = 1.287188506 near q = 0.58579.
This behaviour is rather surprising: there is no obvious reason why the angle sums at the U/V and W vertices should be related, as q and h vary independently; yet whenever one takes the value 2\pi, so does the other simultaneously!
I prepared a movie showing this polyhedron as a function of q, but at the moment I can't think of anywhere to put it --- if anybody wants to see it, I'll happily email directly to them (.GIF movie --- any browser should be able to cope).
Fred Lunnon [11/08/09]
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On 8/11/09, Fred lunnon <fred.lunnon@gmail.com> wrote:
... Jim Propp asked for a polyhedral origami torus, that is one properly embedded in 3-space, and having vertices where the face angles always add to 2\pi. The following construction gives a pencil of examples with 20 faces (4 square + 16 triangular), 12 vertices, 32 edges. ...
Maybe it should be emphasised that (for 0 < q < 1) these polyhedra are =properly= embedded in 3-space --- there are no touching, overlapping or self-intersecting faces, edges or vertices --- the interior is open and connected. The only regrettable feature is that the corners and some edges are re-entrant: easily seen to be unavoidable if they are to be "flat" (developable). A rather attractive robotics and graphics project would be to animate the folding of the max h(q) case, starting from a flat sheet: the "map" is easy to construct. I'm trying not to think about it ... Regarding the relation between height h and radius q of the interior vertices: by symmetry, it's obvious that the implicit constraint f(h, q) = 0 say must involve only h^2. In fact, for every instance I've examined, if q is rational, then h^2 is also apparently rational. Surely this must mean that h^2 = g(q), where it seems reasonable to conjecture that g(q) might be polynomial. I haven't tried to deduce this from the problem; however, solving equations for its coefficients doesn't seem to work. Any ideas, anybody? The values I have (guessed) so far are h(-sqrt2) = h(+sqrt2) = 0; h^2(0) = h^2(1) = 3/2, h^2(1/2) = h^2(2/3) = 119/72, h^2(-1) = 11/18, h^2(-1/2) = 231/200, h^2(1/3) = 731/450, h^2(-4/3) = 59/450, h^2(-2/3) = 287/288, h^2(-1/3) = 1139/882, h^2(3/4) = 1311/800, h^2(1/4) = 2511/1568. The plot of f(h, q) = 0, or h^2 = g(q) if such it be, is a quartic-like oval, symmetric about the h-axis, and flattened on the positive side of the q-axis. It's noteworthy that on the other side, the extremum (q, h) = (-sqrt2, 0) occurs just at the place where the (by now) self-intersecting polyhedron has everted so far that, as q increases further, it is just about to become properly embedded once more --- but cannot, as h becomes imaginary! Incidentally, I tried using Plouffe's inverter for these computations --- are you there, Simon? On the home page http://pi.lacim.uqam.ca/ for "Histoiry" read "History"; for "Tables de constantes" read "Tables of Constants". It didn't cope too well with some cases, I have to say: for example, it failed to recognise that 0.9965277777777785 ~ 287/288; and it claimed 1.285604051711792 ~ 1/12*(-238)^(1/2), nearly correct apart from a mysterious intrusive factor of \iota! Fred Lunnon
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