[math-fun] Suitable subjects for 3D-demonstration
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models. We also have a portable 'cube' version of the same which - with much less expensive technology these days - cost about an eighth of what the fixed system cost. I was wondering what 3D mathematical models could be built, and shown and maybe animated [how?] using these 3D-room facilities. First choices should favour ease of creating the models - and be models which would be useful as learning resources for final-school-exam students. We have a work-experience 16-year-old who is into 3D-modelling, and going forward to Maths/CS, visiting us to do some modelling work in the summer. Ideas welcome: thank you. Guy Haworth, UoR "Three more men: maxMate times ten!"
On 5/1/2014 6:42 AM, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models.
You can buy 3D googles (e.g. Occulus Rift) that allow you to view 3d objects from all directions ($300). So far your movement is via video game controllers, so you don't have the exact experience of "walking" around, but that could be added pretty easily. I've tried an early prototype (my son creates 3D games) that used lower resolution, but it's pretty impressive. Brent Meeker
I haven't tried them myself, but I've seen references to 3D "viewer" programs that run on Windows that will display objects that can be viewed with those cheap 1950's red/green cardboard 3D "glasses". These take advantage of the graphics hardware, so you can rotate & move the objects to be able to view all the different sides. I found out about these when I was looking into 3D printing & ".stl" format files, so you might be able to Google STL viewer programs. Obviously, you can't use these for full color, but they are a lot less than $300! At 01:24 PM 5/1/2014, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/1/2014 6:42 AM, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models.
You can buy 3D googles (e.g. Occulus Rift) that allow you to view 3d objects from all directions ($300). So far your movement is via video game controllers, so you don't have the exact experience of "walking" around, but that could be added pretty easily. I've tried an early prototype (my son creates 3D games) that used lower resolution, but it's pretty impressive.
Brent Meeker
Before I die, I want the visual-tactile experience of turning a sphere inside out with my (virtual) "bare hands". Jim Propp On Thursday, May 1, 2014, Henry Baker <hbaker1@pipeline.com> wrote:
I haven't tried them myself, but I've seen references to 3D "viewer" programs that run on Windows that will display objects that can be viewed with those cheap 1950's red/green cardboard 3D "glasses".
These take advantage of the graphics hardware, so you can rotate & move the objects to be able to view all the different sides.
I found out about these when I was looking into 3D printing & ".stl" format files, so you might be able to Google STL viewer programs.
Obviously, you can't use these for full color, but they are a lot less than $300!
At 01:24 PM 5/1/2014, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/1/2014 6:42 AM, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models.
You can buy 3D googles (e.g. Occulus Rift) that allow you to view 3d objects from all directions ($300). So far your movement is via video game controllers, so you don't have the exact experience of "walking" around, but that could be added pretty easily. I've tried an early prototype (my son creates 3D games) that used lower resolution, but it's pretty impressive.
Brent Meeker
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There were also "X-specs" which alternated left and right between black and transparent in sync with the monitor display so that a suitable program could provide stero-vision on the screen. The difference with Occulus Rift and the similar goggles Sony is developing is that the scene changes appropriately as you move your head, so you can literally "look around". The goggles incorporate two displays (one for each eye). The ones I tried were only 720x360 so pixelation was noticeable, but I think the commercial ones are going to twice that resolution. Brent Meeker On 5/1/2014 1:34 PM, Henry Baker wrote:
I haven't tried them myself, but I've seen references to 3D "viewer" programs that run on Windows that will display objects that can be viewed with those cheap 1950's red/green cardboard 3D "glasses".
These take advantage of the graphics hardware, so you can rotate & move the objects to be able to view all the different sides.
I found out about these when I was looking into 3D printing & ".stl" format files, so you might be able to Google STL viewer programs.
Obviously, you can't use these for full color, but they are a lot less than $300!
At 01:24 PM 5/1/2014, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/1/2014 6:42 AM, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models. You can buy 3D googles (e.g. Occulus Rift) that allow you to view 3d objects from all directions ($300). So far your movement is via video game controllers, so you don't have the exact experience of "walking" around, but that could be added pretty easily. I've tried an early prototype (my son creates 3D games) that used lower resolution, but it's pretty impressive.
Brent Meeker
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I assume you mean virtual models not physical ones ? In which case I would suggest 3D(+) fractals - just search on YouTube for "Mandelbulb" and "Mandelbox" for examples. For appropriate software see Mandelbulber and Mandelbulb3D among others here: http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1 http://www.mandelbulber.com/ The above software will allow creation/animation of objects such as the Menger Sponge and Mandelbulb. Similar software will render them in realtime using the GPU instead of CPU with appropriate hardware (sorry haven't really tried these myself). For other 3D objects that can be modelled - Kleinian Groups (Indra's Pearls), the Kleinian Bottle,, Knots or any "special" topological object that would look interesting in 3D ;) For inspiration see: http://www.josleys.com/ http://www.shadertoy.com/ Unfortunately the latter is beta and some of the shader demos are unstable (depending on your hardware and choice of browser). bye Dave On 1 May 2014, at 14:42, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models.
We also have a portable 'cube' version of the same which - with much less expensive technology these days - cost about an eighth of what the fixed system cost.
I was wondering what 3D mathematical models could be built, and shown and maybe animated [how?] using these 3D-room facilities.
First choices should favour ease of creating the models - and be models which would be useful as learning resources for final-school-exam students.
We have a work-experience 16-year-old who is into 3D-modelling, and going forward to Maths/CS, visiting us to do some modelling work in the summer.
Ideas welcome: thank you.
Guy Haworth, UoR
"Three more men: maxMate times ten!"
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An example image from one of the 3DFractal artists... http://batjorge.deviantart.com/art/Quantum-Gate-409400753 On 4 May 2014, at 14:18, David Makin wrote:
I assume you mean virtual models not physical ones ? In which case I would suggest 3D(+) fractals - just search on YouTube for "Mandelbulb" and "Mandelbox" for examples.
For appropriate software see Mandelbulber and Mandelbulb3D among others here:
http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1 http://www.mandelbulber.com/
The above software will allow creation/animation of objects such as the Menger Sponge and Mandelbulb. Similar software will render them in realtime using the GPU instead of CPU with appropriate hardware (sorry haven't really tried these myself).
For other 3D objects that can be modelled - Kleinian Groups (Indra's Pearls), the Kleinian Bottle,, Knots or any "special" topological object that would look interesting in 3D ;)
For inspiration see:
http://www.josleys.com/ http://www.shadertoy.com/
Unfortunately the latter is beta and some of the shader demos are unstable (depending on your hardware and choice of browser).
bye Dave
On 1 May 2014, at 14:42, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models.
We also have a portable 'cube' version of the same which - with much less expensive technology these days - cost about an eighth of what the fixed system cost.
I was wondering what 3D mathematical models could be built, and shown and maybe animated [how?] using these 3D-room facilities.
First choices should favour ease of creating the models - and be models which would be useful as learning resources for final-school-exam students.
We have a work-experience 16-year-old who is into 3D-modelling, and going forward to Maths/CS, visiting us to do some modelling work in the summer.
Ideas welcome: thank you.
Guy Haworth, UoR
"Three more men: maxMate times ten!"
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Wouldn't load under Mavericks using Firefox; OK using Opera. WFL On 5/4/14, David Makin <makinmagic@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
An example image from one of the 3DFractal artists...
Further to David's suggestion, here are a few favourite fractal movies. Best viewed in darkened room, fullscreen, resolution at least 720p; screen illumination at max if using anaglyph specs. YouTube technology is pretty stretched displaying this material; it's more satisfactory to download (via add-on readily available on web) and view locally instead. Jeremie Brunet "Weird Planet II" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APsLfpfDGOI (no anaglyph version) d0lphchrist "Mandelbox x OctahedronIFS" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkLvO5fMUAI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOEPYuHBDaU [anaglyph] San Base "Our World is a Crazy Fractal" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn9_JGPA9j0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3SxuJE6Ie8 [anaglyph] teamfresh (fractal) 3D Mandelbrot zoom (HD) - Split Point II (also I, III) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMLOBkJltIw Krzysztof Marczak Trip to center of hybrid fractal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E91yxk_pT_A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d94FagJyaT0 [anaglyph] These authors have plenty of clips uploaded, and would probably welcome the opportunity to collaborate on tailor-made material. Also YouTube suggests several others, some more recent since I last explored this scene. [Just checking that the URLs are current proved dangerously enticing ...] Fred Lunnon On 5/4/14, David Makin <makinmagic@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
I assume you mean virtual models not physical ones ? In which case I would suggest 3D(+) fractals - just search on YouTube for "Mandelbulb" and "Mandelbox" for examples.
For appropriate software see Mandelbulber and Mandelbulb3D among others here:
http://www.fractalforums.com/index.php?action=downloads;cat=1 http://www.mandelbulber.com/
The above software will allow creation/animation of objects such as the Menger Sponge and Mandelbulb. Similar software will render them in realtime using the GPU instead of CPU with appropriate hardware (sorry haven't really tried these myself).
For other 3D objects that can be modelled - Kleinian Groups (Indra's Pearls), the Kleinian Bottle,, Knots or any "special" topological object that would look interesting in 3D ;)
For inspiration see:
http://www.josleys.com/ http://www.shadertoy.com/
Unfortunately the latter is beta and some of the shader demos are unstable (depending on your hardware and choice of browser).
bye Dave
On 1 May 2014, at 14:42, Guy Haworth wrote:
Here at the University of Reading, we have an 'immersion room' giving the full 3D-experience in which one can 'walk around' 3D-models.
We also have a portable 'cube' version of the same which - with much less expensive technology these days - cost about an eighth of what the fixed system cost.
I was wondering what 3D mathematical models could be built, and shown and maybe animated [how?] using these 3D-room facilities.
First choices should favour ease of creating the models - and be models which would be useful as learning resources for final-school-exam students.
We have a work-experience 16-year-old who is into 3D-modelling, and going forward to Maths/CS, visiting us to do some modelling work in the summer.
Ideas welcome: thank you.
Guy Haworth, UoR
"Three more men: maxMate times ten!"
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