[math-fun] Math camps...help!
Hi all, I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P) Thanks in advance! Marnie
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors. The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet. On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code. He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with. The friendships made there have lasted to this day. He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks. He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer. I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd. Yeah, they are good. --R On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all about Turing machinies. He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com> wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd.
Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world... --Michael On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all about Turing machinies. He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com> wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd.
Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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-- Forewarned is worth an octopus in the bush.
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all about Turing machinies. He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com> wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd.
Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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-- Forewarned is worth an octopus in the bush.
"...He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…* "* This is also a metric for the program and the participants. Google is happy to have my son and daughter-in-law take 3 weeks off each summer to teach robotics to 12 year olds--they must consider it a good investment. --R On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all about Turing machinies. He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com> wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd.
Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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But don't confuse correlation with causation! Particularly without a suitable control. --ms On 28-Feb-18 11:16, Richard Howard wrote:
"...He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…* "*
This is also a metric for the program and the participants.
Google is happy to have my son and daughter-in-law take 3 weeks off each summer to teach robotics to 12 year olds--they must consider it a good investment.
--R
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote: Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all about Turing machinies. He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com> wrote: My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd. Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all,
I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or C& which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know that they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp options that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe into work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that is probably not a realistic option :P)
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I am looking into starting an online math enrichment program for kids who are into math, focused on puzzles and problem solving. I don't have something to offer yet, but I AM interested in learning more about what is already available, and I'll be looking for kids who want to participate in a pilot program starting this summer. -- Scott Kim On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
But don't confuse correlation with causation! Particularly without a suitable control.
--ms
On 28-Feb-18 11:16, Richard Howard wrote:
"...He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…* "*
This is also a metric for the program and the participants.
Google is happy to have my son and daughter-in-law take 3 weeks off each summer to teach robotics to 12 year olds--they must consider it a good investment.
--R
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all
about Turing machinies.
He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com>
wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30).
At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to
protect
human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses
at CTY
in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young
nerd.
Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu>
wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are
now 38
[F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were
kids.
They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I
believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one
does
competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other
pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't
even
done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
Hi all, > > I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone > that
has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a
> math
camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or
> C& > which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to > know
that
> they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp > options > that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that > AREN'T
super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring
> Gabe
into
> work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but > that
is
> probably not a realistic option :P) > > Thanks in advance! > Marnie > _______________________________________________ > math-fun mailing list > math-fun@mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun > > > _______________________________________________ math-fun mailing list math-fun@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun
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Hi Scott, What ages are you looking at? Ability or age based? I'm assuming not a traditional class with a syllabus so much as a forum for discussion and inquiry...perhaps like an online math circle? (I will admit I haven't done a ton of research on online math circles, but I'm not convinced there is a lot of that out there, esp that would be willing to include younger kids.) We love the idea of a good math circle but have not found one in the area that would work for us. I think Gabe could likely be interested in what you are proposing. Would love more info as you figure things out! -Marnie On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Scott Kim <scottekim1@gmail.com> wrote:
I am looking into starting an online math enrichment program for kids who are into math, focused on puzzles and problem solving. I don't have something to offer yet, but I AM interested in learning more about what is already available, and I'll be looking for kids who want to participate in a pilot program starting this summer. -- Scott Kim
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
But don't confuse correlation with causation! Particularly without a suitable control.
--ms
On 28-Feb-18 11:16, Richard Howard wrote:
"...He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…* "*
This is also a metric for the program and the participants.
Google is happy to have my son and daughter-in-law take 3 weeks off each summer to teach robotics to 12 year olds--they must consider it a good investment.
--R
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all
about Turing machinies.
He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com>
wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30).
At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to
protect
human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses
at CTY
in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young
nerd.
Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu>
wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are
> now 38
[F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were
> kids.
They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I
> believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the > instructors. > > The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one > does
competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other
> pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't > even
done any sleepover camps yet.
> > > On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote: > > Hi all, >> >> I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone >> > that
has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a
>> > math
camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or
>> C& >> which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to >> > know
that
>> they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp >> options >> that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that >> > AREN'T
super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring
>> > Gabe
into
>> work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but >> > that
is
>> probably not a realistic option :P) >> >> Thanks in advance! >> Marnie >> _______________________________________________ >> math-fun mailing list >> math-fun@mailman.xmission.com >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > math-fun mailing list > math-fun@mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun > > _______________________________________________ math-fun mailing list math-fun@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun
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Ages 6-12. Based more on ability than age. Enthusiasm and interest counts more than any particular level of math skills. Definitely not a traditional class syllabus. Online math circle is closer. I do have in mind a syllabus of sorts, but it is based around problem solving process, not any particular mathematical topic, so there is plenty of room for kids to work on projects, problems and puzzles of their own choosing and at their own level. I'm also working with the Julia Robinson Math Festival (http://jrmf.org), and Math Circles (http://www.mathcircles.org). The online program I'm starting is partly in response to a need I see that those events don't cover — those are big exciting monthly events, which is great, but there is also a need for working in smaller groups, more often, over a longer time, to build problem solving habits. If you (or others) are interested in helping me bring Problem Solving Workshop into being, please fill out this brief questionnaire so I can learn more about your needs and what you have tried. https://goo.gl/forms/JKseF1JfUJ0wGQvB3 — Scott Kim On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Marnie Kanarek <marniekanarek@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Scott,
What ages are you looking at? Ability or age based? I'm assuming not a traditional class with a syllabus so much as a forum for discussion and inquiry...perhaps like an online math circle? (I will admit I haven't done a ton of research on online math circles, but I'm not convinced there is a lot of that out there, esp that would be willing to include younger kids.) We love the idea of a good math circle but have not found one in the area that would work for us. I think Gabe could likely be interested in what you are proposing. Would love more info as you figure things out!
-Marnie
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Scott Kim <scottekim1@gmail.com> wrote:
I am looking into starting an online math enrichment program for kids who are into math, focused on puzzles and problem solving. I don't have something to offer yet, but I AM interested in learning more about what is already available, and I'll be looking for kids who want to participate in a pilot program starting this summer. -- Scott Kim
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
But don't confuse correlation with causation! Particularly without a suitable control.
--ms
On 28-Feb-18 11:16, Richard Howard wrote:
"...He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…* "*
This is also a metric for the program and the participants.
Google is happy to have my son and daughter-in-law take 3 weeks off each summer to teach robotics to 12 year olds--they must consider it a good investment.
--R
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all
about Turing machinies.
He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com > > > wrote:
My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). > At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA > machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code. > > He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers > he > could talk with. > > The friendships made there have lasted to this day. > > He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to > protect
human rights websites from DNS attacks. > > He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses > at CTY
in the summer. > > I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young > nerd.
Yeah, they are good. > > --R > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> > wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are >> > now 38
[F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were >> > kids.
They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I >> believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the >> instructors. >> >> The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that >> one >> > does
competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other >> pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't >> > even
done any sleepover camps yet. >> >> >> On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>> >>> I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone >>> >> that
has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a >>> >> math
camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or >>> C& >>> which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to >>> >> know
that >>> they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp >>> options >>> that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that >>> >> AREN'T
super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring >>> >> Gabe
into >>> work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but >>> >> that
is >>> probably not a realistic option :P) >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >>> Marnie >>> _______________________________________________ >>> math-fun mailing list >>> math-fun@mailman.xmission.com >>> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> math-fun mailing list >> math-fun@mailman.xmission.com >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun >> >> _______________________________________________ > math-fun mailing list > math-fun@mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun >
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From: Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu>
But don't confuse correlation with causation! Particularly without a suitable control.
--ms
On 28-Feb-18 11:16, Richard Howard wrote:
"...He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…* "*
This is also a metric for the program and the participants.
Google is happy to have my son and daughter-in-law take 3 weeks off each summer to teach robotics to 12 year olds--they must consider it a good investment.
--R
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote:
That would be him.
On Feb 28, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote: Wait, jyknight is your son? Small world...
--Michael
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Tom Knight <tk@mit.edu> wrote: I’d second this. My son James went to CTY and learned Scheme and all about Turing machinies. He’s also at Google now. I sense a trend…
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Richard Howard <rich@richardehoward.com> wrote: My kids went--life changing, particularly my older son (now 30). At 12 he had a class taught by an NSA code breaker--programmed ENIGMA machines on TI-83 calculators and cracked each other's code.
He waited each year for the summer--the only time he was with peers he could talk with.
The friendships made there have lasted to this day.
He now works for Google (actually Pixel) and works on a project to protect human rights websites from DNS attacks.
He is also (with his wife, also at Google) teaching robotics courses at CTY in the summer.
I credit CTY for opening the world to him when he was a lonely young nerd. Yeah, they are good.
--R
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mike Speciner <ms@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
Well, my info is a few decades out of date, given that my kids are now 38 [F] and 35 [M], but they both enjoyed CTY summer camps when they were kids. They had fun, socialized [with fellow nerds], even learned things. I believe the older one even made a lifelong friend with one of the instructors.
The older one now has an 8-year-old daughter of her own, but that one does competitive gymnastics and violin and there's no time left for other pursuits. Yes, her summer camps are very expensive, and she hasn't even done any sleepover camps yet.
On 27-Feb-18 12:22, Marnie Kanarek wrote:
> Hi all, > > I don't know if you can help me but does anyone have or know anyone that > has any experience with CTY summer camps? Gabe really wants to do a math > camp and CTY has a campus like 10 mins away (as opposed to Epsilon or > C& > which are very far away). They are all so expensive so we want to know > that > they are good before we commit. Also, if anyone has any summer camp > options > that would be...appropriate for a super advanced 8 year old that AREN'T > super expensive, I'm all ears! (I tried to convince Gray to bring Gabe > into > work for a week at STSCI and just let him bug the astronomers...but that > is > probably not a realistic option :P) > > Thanks in advance! > Marnie > _______________________________________________ > math-fun mailing list > math-fun@mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun > > _______________________________________________ math-fun mailing list math-fun@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/math-fun
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