hello everybody, This is interesting, regarding what you said, it means that french people and english speaking people are at opposite sides , if we talk about time only of course... but you are right only the SI (système international) system is the good one, in order of magnitude, yyyymmddHHmmss and eventualy fractions of seconds. on this yy mm dd : there is a wide spread of ambiguous date formats around this planet, in france it is 07 08 09 as of today and 08 07 09 in USA and other places. in Canada there is a complete confusion about dates since many people speak french and english. The ambiguity will remains until 2032 at the least. I find that this numeric problem will probably cause much more arm than the Y2K problem. best regards, simon plouffe