________________________________ (Sending a good story to either Wolfram Research or Maplesoft also gets a good discount, I've learned from experience.). Ed Pegg Jr _______________________________________________ The student edition of Maple was about $165 including shipping and CA tax. You have to provide a school and student ID number. Maple 9, running under windows 2000, was absolutely terrible, often seizing up and being unresponsive to the keyboard. I skipped the Maple 10 upgrade, but Maple 11 was better. I 'm now running Maple 12 under Ubuntu Linux, and I'm quite pleased. There was an unresponsiveness problem at startup that was resolved with Maple's tech support. It required downloading a later version of Java, and I can provide the details. For hardware, I have the Breeze computer from ZaReason ( http://www.zareason.com ), and I'm very happy with it. Gene