Perhaps I should mention that the papery thing resembled two rectangles overlaid and joined along their perimeters. Which reminds me of the --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TEABAG PROBLEM (which I learned of on the Web a few years ago): Let metric space T be 2 unit squares identified along their perimeter. Among all isometric embeddings of T in 3-space, what is the supremum of the attainable volumes? (And, is there an embedding that attains this sup? If so, which one(s)?) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's even somewhat surprising that a positive volume is possible. --Dan _________________________________________________________________________ << Jim asks: << Do any spiders build genuinely three-dimensional webs? Just Friday I turned over an 8-inch rock from our garden0, and clinging to the bottom were two thin earthworms and a paperish thing that resembled the remains of some kind of cocoon. When that thing started flexing, I thought we were about to witness the emergence of some insect's next stage. But instead -- after about five minutes of flexing -- out walked a spider -- a black one quite fat (probably expecting) -- looking quite formidable.